OMG Burger and Brew
Saw a coming soon sign at the old Schooley's Mountain Inn for OMG Burger and Brew.
Sounds great even if the wait is to spring 2018
That sounds good!
I hope they have a few really good home-made vegetarian burgers.
I still miss the vegetarian burgers from Everybody's Cafe in Stroudsburg.
They were SOOO good. We would plan excursions through Stroudsburg just so we could go there.
Glad to see they are doing a full knockdown rather than try to improve that dated building
CraftBeerBob - Have you seen the size of what they're proposing to put up? It's not only huge but that all backs to land locked wetlands you can't build on. I'd bet there are going to be planning and zoning issues for a good year before they even have all the ducks in a row to break ground. On the other hand, it's Long Valley and under the right circumstances it could get approval in two meetings...
GC - I have seen what they have planned. I am aware its total knock down...new septic and so on. I have seen 10 story buildings built quicker. I am not holding my breath on this happening.
Brought to you by the same people who own the Long Valley Brew Pub....where you can also get a burger and beer. Why are we excited about this?
Because it's another place to have beer. Duhhhh!!!!
Hope the ice cream machine isn't broken.
If it was going to be built near the Hackettstown border, like target and peach tree, the Washington township people would approve it in a minute!
Sounds like something you'd name a fast food chain.Wonder what 12 year old came up with it.
Deviljet- That's the companies' decision because Hackettstown is more dense than LV. That's why we have a train station, a Main Street, more stores, etc, than Long Valley.
Anyways, I'm excited. It's always great to have a new restaurant especially one that has beer. Good luck to them!
Yes there were septic issues. I believe the leach field had failed. The town wanted the MTN View to hook up to the town sewer system for the longest time. Now with a new building, they will get their wish.
If anyone finds out a contact for the owners, I would love to get permission to search the lot with my metal detector before they build. :)
So, they're knocking the building down? Or is it just an internal rip-out and replace?
from the article:
The present building would be demolished almost immediately upon approval from the township and the new building would go up on the same “footprint” but set back further from the road.
They're in the Highlands Preservation Area, so the design engineer and architect probably have a challenging balancing act between required number of parking spaces versus building size and the fact that he can't add more than a 1/4-acre of impervious surfaces to the site. As I recall, parking was kind of squirrelly there; if they make them bring the parking lot up to modern design standards, I can see a potential issue for sure.
Aw, that's too bad. The old building has character. I hate all this old stuff with history getting knocked down for shiny new buildings. Shame.
The old place had character, inside & out. The new place will be... just another place.
On the one hand, I agree, JR... but that building wasn't historic, just a relatively old dilapidated building. There was no way that the existing entrance ramp was up to ADA code, nor was there probably an easy fix to make it compliant. The electric was probably a nightmare as well as the plumbing and the roof. If it made sense to do a restoration, they probably would have.
character? The old place was dark and gloomy. Definitely didn't look family friendly.
I didn't mean "historic", I mean it's been there a long time, much like the Old Log Cabin Inn out in Columbia. I wouldn't want to see that place torn down either. And I'm quite sure alot of that building isn't "up to code" LOL
The plan is to build a monstrosity of a building, a "chuckie cheese" burger type place if you will - to target all the kids coming off the ball fields across the street. They are knocking down the nice sized small-town bar that was there, to build an 8,000 sq ft building with a drive through and overflow parking. 8,000 sq ft?!?! That is enormous!! They are making variances to the zoning laws to build a bigger building than would be allowed in LV and are allowing for bigger signage and more parking. I am very against making these allowances. What are zoning laws for?!! I have already written Barbara Margolese of the zoning board with concerns - here is her email if you live in this area and share concerns - email@example.com
Oh for goodness' sakes, will you people stop whining and allow progress to take place? Just let it be built. It's not coming from the taxpayer's dime. If you don't like it, don't go there.
In fact, I'll be sure to email Ms. Margolese mentioning that I'm very excited about the new restaurant and politely asking her to ignore requests to stop it from being built.
Go to church, have a few beers, then get tapped by the police. Sleep it off in the park. Gee, all in a few blocks.
Awesome. So now we are bashing eating establishments before they even open. The owners of the Long Valley Brew Pub are not opening any sort of "Chucky Cheese" type place. Your comparison is completely unfounded.
Definitely no drive through, it says a "take out window." I personally am VERY excited that a new restaurant or for that matter ANY restaurant is opening in that spot. I live on the mountain and we used to go to the Inn all the time because it was close, had cold drinks, and had been there since I was a kid. I'm not going to lie, OMG is the stupidest name I have heard of, but to each his own. Hopefully the food will be better than the Brew Pubs too. That place has taken a nose dive in the last decade.
I'm pretty sure that Chuck E. Cheese doesn't sell burgers OR beer. I think you're limited to pizza or chicken fingers and a salad bar. If the people who ran the place had any soul whatsoever, they would give FREE beer to the poor fathers who are sentenced to an afternoon there, lol.
Good to see progress on that site.
I agree, the name does sound like a 12 year old came up with it. I would conduct a bit more market research before committing to that name for sure.
I'm kind of sad it was demolished, a lot of memories there.
funny I don't think its any dumber of a name than T.G.I.F/ T.G.I. Fridays and that chain seems to be doing well
Please people I grew up in long valley right near the s m I moved out and still come back to visit my parents. Saw the new restaurant and said to my husband it will fail. People in long valley which I was a resident of for 43 years want change but on their terms. No development but yet tolll brothers raped the town excluding ridgeline laws and all environmental laws but yet in the 2000s every development was approved without any consent from the community. The township was corrupt and run by 7 to 8 long timers in the building department. We all remember Millie and fred Jordan. So now should anything else change. Give the restaurant a chance. If I could right a book I could of all the dry wells on the mountain and illegal skeptics. Or all the people that were called out for their sheds with no permits, finished basements, and those home improvements no one knows about. And so is long valley. So let yourselves go into the next phase and improve long valley. Not on your standards but for everyone.
"Saw the new restaurant and said to my husband it will fail"
how did you see the new restaurant? the lot has been leveled and they haven't even started building it...... wait are you from the future????
I hope the new restaurant brings in a lot of business for the area!!! I'll be going there when they build it! I did see a picture of it on the sign out front before the abandoned restaurant was knocked down.
This to me seems like a "if you build it they will come" type of place. If it is good they will keep coming.
There is a large artist rendering of the new building posted on the property.
I think it will be very popular assuming good food, service, prices, etc. There are a ton of activities across the street that could bring alot of business.
I pass by this location every night coming home from work. It'll be a great place to stop off for a burger if I'm not interested in making dinner.
The old restaurant that used to be there had good food too and was always busy. Great location . I wish the owners the best of luck!
I drove by there the last few days as well. It seems to me the main entry will be in the rear. I only see one singe door on the side near the front of the building and only windows in front, unless I missed something. Otherwise it is coming along for sure.
I guess I was correct. I just found some renderings online and it shows the entry in the rear with a patio and such. Should be nice.
LOL. They may offer a typical tossed salad, but if burger is in the name of the restaurant, I would imagine it won't be their forte. The focus will be on that beefy goodness!
maja2 -- How do you know they won't have salads?
Will they serve eggplant rollatini? I’m hoping we get a good place with Italian food where an entree is under 9.99..you go to town and these prices are through the roof...last comment, I recall a corn beef on rye, coleslaw and pickle and the waiter was polite for .75.
Lemme gaze into my crystal ball...
A burger with ANY topping and two craft beers for $30.
I also see no wait for a table....
What do the owners of long valley brewpub know about craftt beer? You are def not going to get anything good at this place
The place is not even open and it's getting panned. Why does this not surprise me....
Sounds like it could be good. We will def. try it. Let's just hope that it succeeds. That location hasn't been kind to businesses. We all love bikers, I used to ride too, but if it turns into a biker place again, as the last couple of incarnations did, it'll hurt their family-customers business.
I don’t think you have to worry about bikers showing up to a place called “OMG Burger and Brew”
Actually, now that I think about it, maybe the name wasn’t a mistake..
Actually, the old place was quasi- family.
Regulars drinking Redbull and Burbon (geez) and chowing down on wings until 6:30, then families for the Lobster Bisque and chicken fingers for the kids.
Not rooting against the new proprietor, but that building is way more than they needed to sling burgers and it will be reflected in the bill of fare ( JMHO).
I plan on riding my bike there.
PS. Lots of bikes at brew pub including patched members of several bike clubs and it's still a family establishment. Lose the stereotypes please.
who are you to tell someone else what to think?
especially when you know that is what happened to the previous places in that location.
quote>>>Don't think I told you what to think. You do that all on your own.<<<
based on the posts I find this to be an inaccurate statement.
Dissecting grammer now Reggie. Your observations past and present speak for themselves. I will leave it at that. Now go enjoy yourself a burger with the bikers when they open. Maybe your observations will change, but I doubt it.
I can't wait for my stout 'n salad!
That's to keep the riff-raff out.
"That building is way more than they needed to sling burgers and it will be reflected in the bill of fare."
Yeah, what diid they make a nice building for and the food quality.If only we could have got a dump of a building with cheap crap food. Oh well maybe next time
these poor guys, haven't even finished building it and they are already getting labeled as over priced and a biker bar.
"labeled as over priced"
It's not the just the burger you are paying for, its the atmosphere where you are enjoying your burger.
What someone is willing to pay for that atmosphere/burger combo is totally up to them.
"That building is way more than they needed to sling burgers and it will be reflected in the bill of fare."
This is an accurate statement, one has to turn a profit,and the more expensive the building/taxes/upkeep, the higher the cost of the service provided. This owner is looking for a more upscale client in order to have a higher profit margin.
Let's not forget even the cost of a liquor license, usually very expensive.
Let the market decide. There is enough money floating around Long Valley to support this business if the patrons so choose to open their wallets and go there.
I wish them the best of luck. No reason for me not to.
hoping to open in June. Place looks really cool.
Now some time in October, https://patch.com/new-jersey/longvalley/omg-burger-brew-opening-pushed-october-long-valley
That article is from late August - no way will it be ready to open in October - I drive by it all the time - a lot of work left to do on it. I would bet on late November..........
Is it me, or is the place massive and seem out of place. Is it sustainable? Can they really draw that much clientele? And if so, what is the traffic going to be like?
During evening rush, making a left out of the parking lot is not going to be fun. But it still won't be as bad as making a left out of the Tap House Grille parking lot!
I still want to know why their generator is so big!!! That's a big enough gen-set to run a large office building!
It doesn't really look that large, maybe the size of the Long Valley Brew Pub? I can also see them booking their second floor for private parties.
I am certain they are not happy to hear 30 Burger is coming into town. They will not be the only game in town.
I wish them success and look forward to checking them out.
They are going in where Enzo's Pizza used to be by Mars on 517.
30 burgers is awesome. Used to be 25 burgers. I wonder if they changed all the legal stuff or if 30 burgers is just a DBA.
But- I think they do a lot more business because they are attached to the Royal and supply their food.
I know I never sit in the actual 30 burger part of the building. I want beer with my big ol greasy cheeseburger.
I second the awesomeness of 30 burgers. Beyond sme crazy burgers, they have bacon cheese fries.
There's one in Flemington too. Right off the 31/202 circle.
I don't care for 30 burgers at all - well at least the location in Branchburg - the rolls are not good. Hopefully the new one in Hackettstown is better.
I wish OMG the best of luck - I will definitely check them out
Yes, and kosher cheeseburgers too!
Seriously though, look at their menu...
30 burgers. Not trolling GC so go blow. Always telling others what to do or not.
Go read their menu. Yuck is what.
Why do you say "yuck" about Halal beef? Kosher and Halal meats have to meet more exacting standards than do the "normally" inspected ones. Advertising that they meet Halal standards essentially means it's a cut above normal, although as I understand it Kosher standards are even higher as a Muslim can substitute Kosher meats for Halal if they are unable to find a source of Halal meats, whereas Jews observing Kosher standards can't substitute Halal inspected meats for Kosher meats.
Anyone who is observant in either religion is more than free to correct me, though that is what I've been told by members of both religions who observe these dietary standards, so I don't feel I'm off the mark here.
Right on their website...." Ask for Halal Meat "
They have veggie burgers too.
If you eat burgers, your best choices are Kosher, Halal or vegetarian.
" Ask for Halal Meat " is probably just their way of saying "Halal Meat available upon request", just as most restaurants state that special dietary options are available upon request. It's just slightly different from the way most people are used to seeing it I guess.
Quality doesn’t really enter into it. It has to do with the way it’s slaughtered some European countries want to ban it - especially kosher slaughter Bc it’s cruel.
Overall, you’d never know by taste. So if you aren’t bothered by cruel slaughter, eat up.
So we're not using the "bolt to the brain" method of killing beef animals? Lovely way to twist things about.
Kosher slaughter was designed to be as humane to the animal as possible, HOWEVER, the problem is with unscrupulous people who do not perform this properly in order to maximize profits, as is mentioned in this article:
It isn't just the slaughter method, but also that certain parts of the animal aren't allowed to be used, such as portions containing veins if I remember correctly.
Sometimes when I think about beef; I see all the moo moo’s needed to feed America for a year lined up, all 39,000,000 of them. Then I think about what happens next; like the meat locker scene from Rocky but with 39,000,000
Then I get the same vision but with cucumbers.
Who is twisting? The fact remains that many European countries consider kosher slow to be cruel. Sounds like you are doing the twisting.
As far as a bolt to the brain versus having your throat slit and slowly bleeding to death in fear and pain, well, we Will let other people be the judge of that.
I'm passing when a restaurant says halal upon request. Even if the restaurarant did maintain a supply of fresh halal meat will the restaurant have a seperate place to prepare and cook the food, which is the best method. The restaurant could do a thorough cleaning of anything that will touch the halal food. I am sceptical but perhaps it would be done.
I will just go to a restaurant that is pure halal.
Ok, I'll bite... what makes "many European countries" better arbiters of what is cruel or not?
Apparently you didn't read the actual article. While both methods (bolt and throat-slitting) performed properly, render the animal dead without pain, it's mainly the method of restraint involved and that the technique is performed correctly that are the factual issues at hand. In Kosher slaughter, the animal does NOT slowly bleed to death in fear and pain as you suggest. Done properly, it doesn't even realize its throat is slit and it just essentially goes to sleep. A good amount of research has been done on this and it seems as though this is more the attempts of some Europeans to distribute anti-Jewish and anti-Muslim sentiment than it is actual research.
Renowned researcher into humane practices Dr. Temple Grandin, who has long ago taken the American animal raising and slaughtering industries to task about their practices, not only for humane reasons, but also because it does have an effect on the meat itself, both in appearance and taste, has no issue with Kosher slaughter itself, but does have an issue with restraint methods that some use, such as what PETA (and I really never thought I'd be quoting them) speaks about in the article I posted above.
For more about Dr. Temple Grandin's thoughts on this and by the way, she is also the premiere researcher and authority on the whole general subject, including designs for holding pens, etc. :
Lets get back on topic.
How about a big thick juicy 100% USDA beef hamburger.
Halal certification is just a money grab to fund.... whatever.
Actually, that IS too much lettuce! But then, I don't really want the tomato or too big a bun on my burger either!
Now I think I have to head somewhere for a juicy burger later today - thanks for that.
My only reason for going off topic is to try to correct unfounded prejudices surrounding the practices mentioned because people were making an issue of it/them that went beyond just humor.
Never understood the whole my food touched something else so I can't eat it...
It's food- and I am logical, black & white-
Taking any thought you have out of it, what goes in your mouth will make no difference to your body - " seperate place to prepare and cook the food, which is the best method." Huh?
You don't want to eat an animal? Fine. But conceptually that vegetable deserves to live, reproduce and die as 'god intended' as well.
As for the cows- how about we guillotine them and make everyone happy?
I know a place nearby that has a field of weird black cows with a huge white stripe down the middle. Weirdest thing I've ever seen. Have any of you ever seen an oreo cow before?
Maybe we can get them at OMG burger.
OMG- WE LIKE HAVE OREO COW BURGERS!!!
We need to bring back the 'totally' of the valley girls-
OMG- WE TOTALLY LIKE HAVE OREO BURGERS!!! OMG!!!
Actually in the days when Judaism and later, Islam codified rules about what foods their followers were allowed to eat and whether or not they could be in contact with another item (i.e. cheeseburger) the rules protected those followers. Whether it was some kind of "inspired guidance", who knows, but in those days there was no way of properly heating meats thoroughly to a safe and proper level which would kill all the bad bacteria and parasites in them and milk products, such as cheese in contact with improperly cooked meats provide a lovely place for foodborne pathogens to multiply even faster.
Personally, with modern day knowledge, plus storage and heating methods along with thermometers, we can ensure that all foods are cooked properly in order to be sure that all pathogens are fully destroyed and won't multiply. To me that makes the overall question about whether those rules are actually necessary in the present day (at least in first world countries) somewhat moot, so it becomes more a cultural/habitual thing, rather than a true safety issue.
Of course that goes more for first world countries as I mentioned, or at least those in those countries that follow the proper storage and cooking techniques.
As far as today goes, I ended up going for a delicious Pollo con queso sandwich at Monchy's rather than a burger, but I'm still itching for a tasty burger at the Anderson Cafe!
Yeah, I should have shown that I had some kind of 1/2 lb. burger at the very least;-)
While I had the desire for a burger after all that talk about beef, etc. I just didn't have near enough room in me to enjoy one tonight. That'll just make the next one even more special!
Josh - Actually, I didn't. My MIL mentioned them a few years ago and I googled it then. LOL
Now that the butchering process has been thoroughly discussed. Any word on an opening day, either soft or hard? A friend from Chester and I occasionally meet for lunch and this would be an ideal mid way point.
According to their Facebook, an opening date is still unknown. But they released their menu last week. It's extensive.
Went to the Anderson Cafe with the wife over the weekend. We had omelettes as it was early.
I have not had the burger there, but what I have had has always been well prepared, and no complaints on the service.
As for a chicken sandwich- Buck Hill does a good job in my opinion, and also has the closest DIPA to Double Jack that I have been able to find. YUM.
But to stay on topic- I am looking forward to trying the food and beer at LOL Burger!!
OMG- he didn't do that, did he?
Tracy - Thanks for the head up on the menu. You are right, a lot of choices there. Seems like there is something for everyone. Meat lovers, vegetarians, vegans and even people who do gluten free. I like that they will offer a cauliflower pizza crust. Really cuts down on the carbs.
Has anyone tried these Impossible burgers? Sounds interesting.
OMG has an advertisement on the electronic billboard at the top of the hill in Budd Lake heading toward Hackettstown. So maybe they're close to opening!
Menu says, "locally made pizza crust." WTH does that mean? They buy it premade?
Looking forward to a good burger. Taphouse has good burgers but they nickel and dime you on toppings.
Calico, if you want a low carb pizza crust, try this one. Very easy to make and delicious.
Don’t know why all the excitement as said previously same owner of the brew pub which is at best average. Hope the sanitation at OMG is better than LVPB. They hooked up to the septic which ironically is what the previous owner tried to do but the town used the highlands as a blocker to prevent that from happening and required him to build a new septic which he could not afford to do and so went out of business. Interesting the property went up for sale to the one guy that owns 3 other establishments in town... politics. BTW I won't go there but Wife did.... could not serve water do to some issue, waited 30 minutes only to be told they ran out of veggie burgers and you’re looking at $20 minimum a burger with fries.
Whoever bothers to write a bad review, or complain about service the first week, gets a noogie for being brain dead!
$20 minimum for a burger and fries??? That IS kinda' high.... I know they have "gourmet" burgers and all, but.....
Ummm there's no $20 burger. Most you'll pay is $14. That's no different than the premium burgers at Red Robin.
Mets- I think Schooley meant a $14 burger with the $5.99 fries puts you at $20 without a drink and before tax. It will actually be closer to $25 I'd bet.
I does not appear so. A bit pricey if you ask me.
I had a Smash Burger for the first time last week. Their signature burger with an iced tea was $9.50. I guess it was OK. Price was about right for what I got. No fries either.
I'll pass then if it doesn't include fries. This place won't last if that's what it costs for a burger and fries...
Could be tough in the long haul I agree. Unless they plan on exploiting the bar to it's fullest. Then perhaps it could sustain. Kind of like Bea McNallys. Food is meh at best. The bar crowd is what makes the scratch for them.
"Unless they plan on exploiting the bar to it's fullest."
Across from the police station, in a non-walkable area? Hmmmm......
I like that it has a drive up window for take-out orders. We'll try it out after they've worked all the kinks out.
Fries don't come with the burger. A side of fries is large, though, and easily feed 3-4 people in my opinion.
True! The whole having a few pops while looking out at a building full of Federales is surely a downer! LOL.
Trying to compare the cost of a burger to smash burger is not the right thing to do, as this is a brand new big nice building they need to pay for.
While the cost maybe high compared to other lesser venues, I have no problem paying a premium for ambience, as long as it comes with good service and well prepared fresh food.
Having the police station across the street is an interesting choice, but the same as the boat house in Washington.
No one should be driving while intoxicated, so this should just make them be aware of how many they had.
I will try it soon but I don't like the scrutiny of the cop station across the street.
Hell, even Emeril gives you fries with his $14 burger... and that's in a casino.
And the only way you can order french fries is to pay $6 for an order that can easily feed 3-4 people? Does that sound completely ridiculous to anyone else? So you can throw out two-thirds or three-quarters of them?
The fries should be a smaller serving at half that cost. We'll see how the reviews go for the place.... I'm excited for a new place so I hope the food is amazing!
Never worried about the cop shop when it was Mountain view. Most of the cops are at the bottom of Hackettstown Mountain anyway.
I wouldn't worry about the police station. It's basically an empty building now. No calls are handled from there any more.
And the only way you can order french fries is to pay $6 for an order that can easily feed 3-4 people? Does that sound completely ridiculous to anyone else?
Yup! I had the same thought. My other half would use this as a lunch stop, but for a single person to get a burger and fries is going to be a minimum of 20 bucks. Not gonna happen.
Apparently, $20 PLUS your drink of choice. Plus tax. Plus tip.
My wife and I used to get 2 burgers (with fries!), and 2 beers at the LVBP for $30. MAYBE $35. For TWO of us.
I'm sure it'll be a popular spot, but I'm interested in seeing how this pricing holds up. The promise "gourmet" burgers (which the LVBP AIN'T), so I guess if the food is THAT good, that'll be one thing. If it's not any better than LVBP, Beas, or Marley's....
Log Cabin Inn Cheeseburger $8.50
That's $12 for a very hard-to-beat burger (it's my local fave). And it's a damned 1/2 pound.
Beer, depending on time of day and choice, would only bring it up to maybe $18... including a beer.
I don't care how good it is... No burger and fries and drink is worth almost $30...
Cmon- again stop with the silly comparisons.
Log cabin is a 100+ year old glorified back woods hunting cabin (or shed)...
Long since paid for. Long way from nice.
Next thing you guys will be comparing to a local vfw or firehouse...
Metsman- I hate to tell you then that I was at a restaurant a few weeks ago with a $40 burger on the menu.
"Log cabin is a 100+ year old glorified back woods hunting cabin (or shed)...
Long since paid for. Long way from nice."
1) good food is good food, it doesn't matter what the mortgage payment is or what the property taxes are
2) alot of people LOVE the atmosphere at the Log Cabin Inn... "nice" is in the eye of the beholder.
If the 2 restaurants were being judged at a competition for "best burger", they would be graded on the BURGER, not the price or the atmosphere...
Next time you hire a contractor to do work for you, and he tells you his rate is $200/hour because he's putting his kid through college, you be sure to go ahead and fork it over, mmm-kay?
And, believe it or not, I don't really care about the price of food, I always laugh at all the arguments on HL over food being "too expensive". I can afford it. But everyone's got a line somewhere.... for $20, it better be the best G-D burger AND FRIES fries I've EVER had. And I doubt that it will be.
"If the 2 restaurants were being judged at a competition for "best burger", they would be graded on the BURGER, not the price or the atmosphere..."
Yes- and at that competition you will not be experiencing the atmosphere or service either.
Again- stop with the apples and orangutan comparisons.
Is that a mistake on burger menu.. burger and fries 7.99? Listed twice..looks like that one should be on kids menu only.
Zinburger in Parsippany charges $10+ for their burgers and fries are extra. Place is good, but I feel that I can get an entire meal for that price at Five Guys and be just as happy.
I remember a "hot dog + fries + soda special " for 22 cents. I'm really no longer surprised by the costs of things.
Bar/burger is a bar/burger. Their overhead has nothing to do with it. It’s apples vs apples.
>>Whoever bothers to write a bad review, or complain about service the first week, gets a noogie for being brain dead!<<
Agreed, Maja, though I suggest giving the place a few weeks to iron things out. I'm fairly certain that they will make things right if there is an issue.
The restaurant business is tough, and I respect the people who work in it.
Problem is no matter how good the food is I had and no matter the cost it still turns to crap by morning.
"Across from the police station, in a non-walkable area? Hmmmm......"
are you thinking of setting up Uber right next to it?
"are you thinking of setting up Uber right next to it?"
Wouldn't be a bad idea. I can't do it though, I still rock the flip phone. LOL
This is similar to restaurants charging around $20 (or more) for a vegetarian pasta dish. I can afford it but will not buy it out of principle.
Pasta with broccoli & zucchini in garlic olive oil for $20? (and no salad included) Don't think so!!!
4 weeks ago
This place will won't last a year. What else can be done with a big log cabin building? Maybe lawn and garden equipment?
I would hope that everyone will give them a chance.
But, I had my suspicions when I saw the size of the building.
Has to factor into product pricing to carry cost of facility.
Haven’t been in yet, but will give ‘em a shot.
"Pasta with broccoli & zucchini in garlic olive oil for $20? (and no salad included) Don't think so!!!"
No... not if you put it like THAT. But call it PASTA PRIMAVERA and put it in a fancy bowl and the sheep will eat it up, lol.
The location alone will make me not want to go there. Have a burger a brew and then just pull into the police station across the street. No thanks. And I agree for a $20 burger, it better be a tasty burger and the best burger I have ever eaten, but it won't be.
Again what can be done with a log cabin building when this place goes under??
People act like there wasn’t a bar there for years. Didn’t seem to be a problem then. Not like there are cops just hanging out in the police station, they all are out on patrol.
Cops like easy pickings. Revenue gatherers is really all they are. Very little protecting and serving.
"No... not if you put it like THAT. But call it PASTA PRIMAVERA and put it in a fancy bowl and the sheep will eat it up, lol."
Spoken like Anthony Bourdain!!!! God I miss him.
Miss him also^
We’ll give this place a try eventually after things get worked out.
I do love the Heaven and Hell burger at Taphouse. Pretty sure it comes with fries but they ask which side you’d like. Not sure if those are an up charge. I always go for the salad or sweet potato fries anyway
They shouldn't be charging people over $20 for a burger and fries just because they decided to build a structure the size of Noah's ark....
stopped at the budd lake diner last night.got the cheeseburger.it was big and juicy came with fries slaw and a crisp pickle.for 12 dollars.you have to try it.one of the best burgers I ever had.its my new place to go for a great burger with all the extras.
"They shouldn't be charging people over $20 for a burger and fries just because they decided to build a structure the size of Noah's ark...."
Are you not a firm believer in Capitalism?
This is America, "They" have every right to charge whatever they want.
And so do doctors.
And so do pharmaceutical companies.
And so do lawyers, landscapers, plumbers and accountants.
And of course, so do the boomers when they ask an astronomical amount for their house with pink toilets, old septic systems and enormous tax bill.
When you embrace the flag, you embrace Capitalism.
"They shouldn't be charging people over $20 for a burger and fries just because they decided to build a structure the size of Noah's ark...."
""They shouldn't be charging people over $20 for a burger and fries just because they decided to build a structure the size of Noah's ark...."
Then the name wouldn't have "OMG" in it!
And as a fellow capitalist I give them the middle finger and I'm not buying it. LMAO...
They could lower the prices if the taxes on the property were less. Those pesky property taxes again. The ones that we are only paying the principal on, and not the debt that is owed.
For 12.00 I can have a beautiful steak cooked perfectly at home in 20 minutes, just the way I like it. So simple to do using basic restaurant techniques, and fun to do.
Girlfriend is impressed when she sees me cook. Win win.
Relax with wine at home, no chance of DWI.
For a less expensive alternative, and with quality people for a great atmosphere (no Grey Poupon types, 2 wheel drive vehicle's welcome)
Dinner at the Legion - Burger Night 5:00 pm - 8:00 pm
Dinner every Friday at 5:00-8:00PM
Willow Grove St
Burgers with choice of toppings - bacon, cheese, tomato, lettuce, mushrooms, onions, etc.
Steak Sandwiches with choice of toppings - cheese, peppers, onions, mushrooms, etc.
Pork BBQ Sandwich
Cost - $5 each
Fries with choice of cheese or gravy - $2
Soup - $3
We were there the 2nd night it opened. I had the crab cakes sandwich which was very good. Hubby and daughter had different kinds of burgers but both were not impressed with them. I know my daughter kept asking where the bacon was which she expected to see like every other place she orders it at. Turns out the bacon was actually tiny little bacon bits which were far and few but extremely salty.
French fries are extra which I thought was ridiculous. As for the fries serving 3-4 people, well our server told us it is a large serving which can possibly serve up to 2 people. Indeed it did....my husband and daughter shared them.
But like I said, I enjoyed my crab cakes for sure. I was expecting something a little different though when it came to the rest of the menu. Glad we went and tried it out but I don't think it's somewhere I will need to go and visit anytime soon.
I wish them well.
4 weeks ago
If it takes you 20 minutes to cook a steak, it better be at least two inches thick (-;
It takes 5 minutes alone just to get the heavy cast iron pan to searing hot temperature, and to preheat the oven.
And you are right, the thickness of the steak makes a difference, along with preparing the right seasoning, plus you have to allow time for it to rest after you take it out of the oven.
I'm making chicken tonight, this almost changed my mind. Maybe I will just go to the legion and sit with the townsfolk and enjoy a burger with them....
Is that the Alton Brown method where you get the cast iron skillet searing hot while you heat the oven to 500 degrees? Sear the steak for 30 seconds on each side in the skillet and then put the skillet in the oven for 90 seconds per side? That's my go-to method when it's too cold to fire up the grill outside...
Burger joint is getting meh reviews on the burgers?
How is the beer selection??
For giving my opinion maja2?
I thought I gave a fair and accurate OPINION of MY experience.
Perhaps you should go try it out yourself.
4 weeks ago
I had a look at the pictures on their website of the food and none of it looked appetizing. The amount of ingredients they put in one salad (like the chick pea salad) is overwhelming. The salads i used to get from Chef Sonny at the Sunoco gas station in LV was more than half the price and delicious. They should hire him!!
I honestly think they are trying to bring in the: if it's this expensive it must be good crowd. Don't critize them though it might hurt the patrons feelings.
I met friends for lunch at OMG. We only meet a couple of times a year, so seemed like an interesting idea. I am not a hamburger person. Even on July 4th, I'll pass on a burger and have the side dishes. I had the impossible burger. I loved how it tasted. My friend liked hers also. Czig Meister Blacksmith on the side for me. Our vegetarian had the Spicy Thai salad. Loved it! I'll take her word for it... tofu :) The owner stopped at the table twice. Very friendly, and open to suggestions. Good size bar, plus a smaller one upstairs. . Flat screens all had college games. I left full and happy.
I struggled to find one decent review of this place. Most agree it's overpriced garbage food, with nothing more than high rent to pay for.
I'll pass and wait for this to become a lawn and garden center.
Most on this haven’t bothered to go and try it out so they can’t give a real review. They’re just complaining about the price. Only 2 people on here admitted to actually going to it.
Go on their Facebook page there is plenty of good reviews.
Or go and try the place for yourself.
D-ball: thanks on the Legion: I'm in. Can you tell me who the Legionnaires are today? Mostly Vietnam Vets or some Korean and MiddleEast Vets as well? Do women join up today? Used to really love attending such things with the WWII folks; such stories and fun.
Thanks to you, found the menu and the prices, should be a swell time unless there's a missing Shepherd around Xmas time :>)
November 23 Closed – Happy Thanksgiving!
November 20 Burgers, Steak Sandwiches, or Special Sandwich of Chef’s Choice
December 7 Burgers, Steak Sandwiches, or Special Sandwich of Chef’s Choice
December 14 Shepherd’s Pie
December 21 Burgers, Steak Sandwiches, or Special Sandwich of Chef’s Choice
December 28 Closed – Merry Christmas!
· Burgers, Steak Sandwich and Special Sandwiches are $5.00 each
· Dinners are $8.00 each.
Yes Jim L exactly. Anyone been to the taphouse and have their 15.00 French onion burger? It’s out of this world. Good food is expensive. Atmosphere is expensive too. Yes log cabin, marleys have great burgers that are less expensive but I prefer the atmosphere at taphouse over the others. I still go to all 3 places depending on our mood and wanting to drive a distance or not.
James on Main is expensive, doesn't have a log cabin to pay for, but makes dishes most people aren't going to make at home, so a premium isn't a problem. This is a friggin burger. Some people would even argue that Smash Burger and Five Guys do it better for half the price.
But yes, if you want to eat that, cough, "gourmet", cough burger in a newly built building that's going to takes years to pay for, go ahead. I could eat a much better meal at Jame's for about the same money. No comparison. End of the day it's a hamburger, people will get tired to paying $20+ Happens every time.
"Most on this haven’t bothered to go and try it out so they can’t give a real review. They’re just complaining about the price"
100% correct...I've worked at places that made a 350% profit on a $10 burger, and places that made a 200% profit on a $15 burger. Just because the prices are out of the norm for the area doesn't mean overpriced. Restaurants run on pretty specific formulas in trying to be successful. Cost of food, cost of production, etc... I had a quick look at their menu, and my first guess would be that they are purchasing slightly more costly goods and running a substantially staffed kitchen so they can do a lot of on sight preparation, which all costs money. The average restaurant in the area runs on skeleton crews buying food at the lowest possible cost, bouncing between food distributors, restaurant depot, and sales at shoprite. Fries at $6.99, at first glance, may seem expensive, but I don't know if they're making their own fries, or buying them, serving size, what kind oil they are using(fryer oil can range anywhere from $18 to $60 for 35 pounds), etc... And, what if, instead of using their oil till its smoking and looks like gritty coffee, they're straining it every night and changing it before it gets old and filthy? That costs more money as well. There are endless things to consider before just calling a place overpriced.
In the end, all that matters is that their customer base leaves the restaurant without feeling like they overpaid...if they accomplish that, they'll be fine, if not, they'll have to rework things. But just complaining that they're overpriced without even trying it is short sighted at best.
Hadenough $15 for a good burger is fine if you get fries with it. I've spent $14 at Red Robin for one of their premium burgers, but I also can get unlimited fries or salad with it.
Yet most of the reviews have the customers feeling like they overpaid. Especially the people that overpaid for cold food. I'm sorry but you can dress up anything and slap a high price on it. But you're right the people will decide. My feeling is they won't last a year. The novelty fades on every new restaurant and that will be the tell. Big roll of the dice on hoping a $50 bill for two makes people happy.
Again it's all about perception if you think a $20 burger is special go for it. I'd rather pay good money for something I can't or don't want to make at home. They have a brand new building and liquor license to pay for, have to get it somewhere, so enjoy that $20 burger.
Is this the same owner as brew pub? Ate there yesterday instead of trying OMG burger because of your guys reviews. We had 2 beers 2 apps and split a very good burger there. Think it was about 60$. The apps were average at best. Burger was great. So if there making a better burger at OMG it will definitely be worth it for a special occasion. PS: I hadn't been to brew pub for like 10 years haha. And there still in business so must be doing okay.
Liquor sales pay the liquor license...biggest 3 rackets at any restaurant(for the most part, there are exceptions) are alcohol, chicken, and pasta dishes...that's where the money is made...
I haven't been impressed with the LVBP in my last few times of going there. Beer is average and food has slipped. Bottom line is no one wants to feel like they could have had an equivalent meal for less elsewhere. It's just a burger and a burger is cheap unless they're using Kobe beef which they're not.
"It's just a burger and a burger is cheap"
Again, several things factor into the price of ground beef...is it straight 80/20 chuck? Or is it a steak blend, or brisket/chuck/short rib blend(I would guess this)? How much are their rolls? Wholesale Martin's potato buns(I have no idea what an ACE bun is) that would accommodate an 8 oz burger are roughly $0.35 a piece. And a pretzel bun could be $0.60+/each. Are they making their own patties, or buying them(both have their pluses, but either way can greatly effect cost of product)? So, just the bread and the meat could have a $4 effect on the price necessary to meet minimum target profit. I could think of 100 things that would justify their pricing, or 100 things that could make them overpriced...not my place, as I have no idea what they're doing there, only speaking from my own experience working in restaurants at both ends of the spectrum.
I'm in no rush to try it out...having incredibly high expectations for any brand new place is setting yourself up for disappointment. I probably/maybe will stop on over sometime down the road after they've had some time to work out kinks and develop consistency and the "new restaurant" craze has died down a little. I'll reserve my judgement until then.
The price is reasonable for what you are getting. Don't you taste the flavor of pensions in every bite? The aroma of pensions in the atmosphere, with the sounds of the government employees laughing all the way to the bank as the beer is flowing.
The cost of the building (principal + interest) is part of the charge, along with staffing costs (I'd bet none receive health insurance) ingredients, fuel, electricity, profit, and also property, liquor and sales taxes. Most of the money is going to be made on the alcohol sales. Taxes are a good percentage of the costs, and NJ is a high tax state (yet is still bankrupt to the tune of 80 BILLION DOLLARS.)
It's going to be expensive. 3 hours of labor for a minimum wage worker to have a burger, fries, and a drink. If this is you, it's probably not your place to go from a financial standpoint. But hey, if you can afford it, I'm sure they provide you with a very nice burger and an atmosphere that you feel comfortable in.
It's all about marketing and demographics. If the job has been done right it will be profitable.
America is all about choice. Some want to have a 20 dollar burger, others want to have 3 children out of wedlock. It's all good.
Or just brew some at home, click on the fifty inch, and watch the meltdown from your own living room... It's your choice. That's what Americans want, they want choices,and they have them. This is what makes America great!
Thanks Localchef for explaining what goes into the cost of food - very informative!
look, i wish any new business good luck , god speed and great success, but i'm just not willing to pay 20 bucks for a burger
say what you will about me, it's ok, i'm a big boy and i can take it.
"Kobe beef is overrated anyway, imo."
American maybe. Tokyo's is out-of-this-world.....Or maybe it was in comparison to all that fish.
Localchef bringing some much needed reason to this thread!
I’m excited to try OMG and hope they do well.
@ Strangerdanger...My husband is a Korean War Veteran and I am a Member of the Ladies Auxiliary at the Hackettstown American Legion...They do very well with their Friday night burger nights (delicious burger, plus for only $5) and also their full meals when they have them usually once per month. Very few Legion Members around from World War 11 but all after that are pretty well represented. The drinks are very low cost as well.
Businesses need to make money to survive, a lot of costs. A quality $5 burger doesn't exist unless you do it yourself.
Thanks J; really sounds like fun from folks with unbelieveble true stories. Always fascinating.
And a five buck burger to boot.
Strangerdanger - The burger's aren't the only meals either. They alternate with some good dinners too. The fried chicken and chicken parm are two of my personal favorites. And the proceeds go to the Legion's programs for vets. Feel free to come out and enjoy any Friday. ;-)
People here said the same crap about Starbucks and James on Main and both are always packed. While many around here may call it out of budget others do not and there are more than enough around to support a good place. On the other end there are plenty places around cheaper you can enjoy for less. There is a market on both spectrums. The only thing I would think for OMG they will need to come up with some take out window specials to address that market when the weather warms up for the park and sports fields patrons.
One might point out that James on Main and most Starbucks have a relatively small footprint and accompanying utility/tax/lease costs.
That building for OMG equals killer overhead.
I’m not rooting against them and I’m not an architect-but between both floors, what are we talking? Maybe 3,500 sq.ft.?
That’s a big nut.
And right now- low inflation and full employment.
Tale will be told in the next 18-24 months.
the one time I tried the Friday dinner at the legion I couldn't eat it - so gross. the people are awesome and it's a great cause but not the place to go 'for the food'.
regarding OMG Burgers, I wonder if it's the same owners as before, trying to put lipstick on a pig.
"regarding OMG Burgers, I wonder if it's the same owners as before, trying to put lipstick on a pig."
?- same owners as what? Schooley's Mtn Inn? It's the same owners as the LVBP.
And as for the "pig"- it's a WHOLE NEW PIG, including newly dug basement! No "lipstick" involved! LOL
@ Scottso..Did you have the burger when you went to the Legion?? You are the first I ever heard say that if it was the burger. I have had a meals there (other than the burger) that I was not wild about but never let that one disappointing meal deter me from going almost every Friday night and supporting the vets and why they are doing what they are doing. Also the price..$5 for burgers plus...and $8 when they have a full meal...For most of us it is also a place to meet up with old friends and people of the community and have a good time...
Uh....."You don't like it - don't go" only for non-profits ---- I dunno, pretty good mantra for all aspects of life only balanced by "tough noogies, just do it."
But we were talking $5 burgers for a good cause with some interesting people that served our nation well and protected our liberties. Shepherd's Pie ---- like I said, until I can determine Hackettstown does not have any missing Sheepherders, I'm in for the burgers :>)
Like HDJ's, part of the allure is the ambiance.
Well stated Joyful.
Even if one does not care for the the meal offered at the Legion to say it is "so gross couldn't eat it" is totally unnecessary and insensitive.. The weekly dinners there support the American Legions mission, raise community awareness, offer a a place for friends to gather as well foster a sense of participation and civic responsibility. Complain about any for profit food establishment but the Legion is a different animal. You don't like it - don't go.
In addition, for $8 you would be hard pressed to make the meal yourself for that amount of money. Let alone have it purchased, prepared, served and cleaned up.
The members at the American Legion including the Vets, Auxiliary, SAL etc all volunteer their time and expertise for the benefit of others. Always keep that in mind.
The best thing about OMG Burgers so far is that it has brought well deserved attention to our Veterans and the American Legion on Willow Grove.
Wow lot's of unhappy overcharged customers and a case of food poisoning to round out these shite reviews. I'll take a pass, $20+ for a burger, I horse laugh at that.
Not off to a good start with those reviews... When they get their stuff together and start serving fries with the burger, I'll try them out.
OMG better turn it around quickly based off those Yelp reviews.. if they don't they will be SOL.
If you ate a burger and fries at OMG, you need to eat less :) They are big burgers! Plus, unless you need to be at the mall anyway, consider the gas and time cost of fries at Red Robin. If you are going week one and 2 with your kids, or any time, don't complain about a wait. Leave and go to a fast food joint. You'll be promptly served at the register. Or reserve a table at OMG. Sign up for email specials. If Yelp guides your decision to never try anything, enjoy your living room. People are more likely to whine than praise. As we well know on HL! All a choice.
Support the American Legion for sure!
If you're comparing OMG to Red Robin then I definitely do need to eat there. Five Guys is told to be a burger larger than you can eat and that's the single, and they don't cost $15. Then again they don't have a big huge tax loaded building to pay for.
lol every yelp review admitted the place was packed. so time will tell if those 9 reviews is a true reflection of everyone's experience. But 9 reviews from a place that was packed every night since it opened I don't think is a real good sample size. And complaining about wait time at a new restaurant is silly.
If the place is still packed in a few months then obviously the price and quality is not an issue. If everyone tries it but doesn't return then there is an issue. Hard to judge a new restaurant in its first 30days. even harder when you don't actually go there.
There's an OMG Burger and Brew in Pendleton, Oregon, not sure if it is the same chain or the idea that was ripped off to make the LV one. But the menu for Oregon blow this place out of the water. Way more burgers on the menu, some very interesting and nothing over $14 and they include fries. Hell the triple burger was only $18. Too far for a road trip, but just goes to show how this place is way off the mark. Apparently the owners didn't go for an original idea, just a big mark up for a copy.
Yelp is a site where you have to decide whether a restaurant is really bad or the reviewer is completely nuts.
The person who claimed food poisoning could be wrong or ate something else bad earlier in the day. Many reviews were about wait times or a mixed up order, this is common at a new, overloaded establishment.
The price, however, is the price. That comes to value, and that is subjective at best.
Personally, I believe the price is high as the overhead is high, you add a profit margin on top and now you have a 14 dollar burger.
The market will decide- Americans have choices. Choose a 14 dollar burger there, or a 5.00 burger at the legion, your choice. Want to work or collect welfare, your choice. 2 kids married or 3 kids unmarried, your choice. Repuke or Democrap, your choice.
The one in Oregon is “OMG Burgers and Brew” (plural burgers) so only a 95% rip off of their name/idea. ;)
In fact, I found their website first before the local one.
From what I have heard, the owner of the Long Valley Brew Pub is the same owner of OMG Burgers and Brew. I thought it was silly to open two restaurants within two miles from each other that are somewhat similar to each other. Eventually I will hit the place up, but I'm in no rush after hearing everyone's opinions
3 weeks ago
I can't see how they will keep both open for a prolonged period of time, unless they plan to sell lv brew pub eventually... The place was empty around lunchtime saturday, but not sure what the norm. Is over there
They’ll be crowded, for a year or two. We have seen enough restaurants come and go, over the years. They have to sell A LOT, just for the franchise fee, alone. I wish them all the best, though. OMG...another restaurant?
OMG has haricot verts
wait, what that's green beans in french
combine that with supermarket quality Martins rolls
CBGB says PASS
Went to the RCMH Christmas show Saturday and had lunch at a cafe inside Rockefeller Center and the burger was under $10 and large fries $3.99 enough for 3 and both were very good. dinner for 3 in NYC $43
again no thanks to OMG $15 burger and power slaw
but to those who do go , enjoy
Just picked up a burger & fries from a very good restaurant in Florida - I know it's hard to compare with this place but it was $11.99, came with all kinds of goodies including gourmet fries.........
This is not a franchise restaurant. Guilty Remnant does know what he/she is talking about.
My daughter went with some friends over the weekend ... in her words ... not worth it !!!
Humpty JR's rules the burger world. Great fries, coleslaw, too, and a 1950's ice cream stand atmosphere that can't be beat. Took out the counter seats to make more table room, but I still go. Yeah, ice cream too but I am always too full. Great website with frequent flyer and other promotions. Local guy from Phillipsburg saw the vacant building and had a better idea.
Maybe not the urban suburban feel of OMG, but he's real and he's doing a real thing his way saving a nice American tradition. The local hamburg stand.
We went tonight with our neighbors and our kids. We were so disappointed. This place is ridiculously overpriced!! 3 beers, a glass of wine, 2 burgers, a chicken sandwich, 2 kids meals, 1 order of SIX DOLLAR FRIES for $125 without tip.
I ordered the Chipotle bison burger (sub bison meat for regular beef and kept everything else on it.) It was supposed to have candied bacon, boom boom sauce, cheese, arugula, and beer battered pickles. The burger came to the table and it was so flat and small it looked like a fast food burger. You couldn't see any of the toppings when you looked at it from the side. For $15, I should be excited to eat it when I look at it. The sauce on it was good, I'll say that. My burger was missing the bacon and the pickles so only had cheese, boom boom sauce and like 3 pieces of arugula on it. I asked for the bacon on the side and I put it on myself. Not to mention, a big chunk of my burger was missing like it fell through the grill or something. Again... For $15 and no fries... The burger should be darn near perfect.
Someone mentioned the fries are a huge portion. Ours certainly weren't. Two of us shared them with our burgers and we seriously left hungry. (And FYI... I'm a small person and don't eat a ton.) The burgers are NOT gourmet. They don't look gourmet, they don't taste gourmet, they're not large, and HELLOOOO... POTATOES ARE SO CHEAP!.... WHY AREN'T FRIES INCLUDED AND WHY ARE THEY $6?! If you go... Be ready to drop nearly $100 for two people and one child... No appetizer, no dessert.
We won't be going back and we'll be surprised if they're in business in 6 months-year.
3 weeks ago
Wow. That's too bad.
All I can say is when I go to Allies in Washington, I sometimes have the veggie burger (it's often a special) which COMES with fries, pretty much the best fries I've ever had -- included in the price of $8.95. They also always have a non-veg. burger on the menu (I think it's a turkey burger) for the same price with fries. I'm sure it must also be really good. And you can sub. sweet potato fries for an extra dollar or two --- also incredibly delicious! It's a hard choice choosing between the two fries. But -- they are only open for lunch.
3 weeks ago
Disappointed I agree, I have placed my complaints with the manager/owner on the day I went. I didn't post them here because I wanted a place like this. Everything was so underwhelming, wrong also, but in my case cold. I really think those that enjoyed it were just friends of lvbp. The negatives seem to be outweighing the positives. I will say the dessert I had was delicious. Only saving grace. I guess if since everyone is mentioning prices, for 1 dessert, 1 soda 2 burgers and 1 loaded friend, it was 50 bucks. I guess minus the extras, soda, dessert and loaded portion it would be 38 for 2.
Jim..I figured with the amount of responses, and the way the restaurant looked, I thought it was a franchise. Thanks for the correction.
Well with those kind of prices my large family wont be stepping in there. It would cost us over $120 for just burgers with no fries or drinks? I'll Pass.
I hope with all the constructive criticism that is being provided via Facebook & Yelp, that the owner's take the suggestions & make some changes so that their reputation improves.
"Only saving grace. I guess if since everyone is mentioning prices, for 1 dessert, 1 soda 2 burgers and 1 loaded friend, it was 50 bucks."
That's a pretty good deal. It takes more than $50 just to get one of my friends loaded (-;
the amazing part is they probably are loaded when they arrive.... :>)
The future: it depends.
LValley may love this place, don't mind the prices, Htown hates, and it does just fine.
Prices are too high and they must modify (Inn at Mill Race for example re-invented itself two or three times while looking exactly the same for over a decade).
ARRIVAL: Upon entering, a young woman "greeted us" from her hostess position near the entrance. She looked at us as if she was surprised to see people entering. No welcome, no hello, no smile. She appeared to be overwhelmed, although there was nobody else behind us looking to be seated, and the place was only about half full, probably less than that.
We asked if it would be OK if we grabbed a table near the window, because we had our dog in the car and we wanted to keep an eye on him. There were plenty of available tables, including ones by the window, but she seemed confused by my request, and behaved as if what I was asking was unusual.
Since she was taking no action at all, I walked over to the nearest available table and said "how about this one"? She reluctantly agreed to sit us there and abruptly walked away...so far I was not too thrilled.
AT THE TABLE: Now seated, I took the place in. Decent sized bar near the entrance, with a sufficient amount of screens. A long stairway to the balcony seating area, which was currently empty, a mini bar with screens up there as well.
Ample enough seating downstairs, although I could easily envision a lack of seating when the place gets crowded, and having to wait on a list to be seated.
Restrooms are located just off that downstairs seating area. All in all, the place wasn't as big as I thought it would be, and not laid out like I thought it would be either, but it's a nice looking place nonetheless. If you don't like cathedral ceilings then you won't like this place. I do, so I felt comfortable.
WAITRESS: We hadn't be seated too long when our waitress (Luz) came around. She was friendly, welcoming, and did not appear the least bit overwhelmed by the circumstances. I realize that it's a new restaurant, and that new hires need time to break in, but she didn't give off that impression at all. IDK if she had prior experience as a waitress, but if she didn't then she was exceptional.
She took our order and left, all with a smile. Soon thereafter, a genuinely nice and friendly woman came over to our table to say hello. It was obvious she was an owner or co-owner, and that she wanted to welcome us to her restaurant. I forgot her name, sorry to say.
Regardless...she is truly a sweet woman, she engaged us in conversation that was not pretentious in any way, I didn't get the car salesman feeling from her, she was genuinely nice and interested in what we had to say.
We spoke for a few minutes and then she moved on to greet other customers. I noticed that she would occasionally confer with a guy with a beard, who I assume was either her husband, co-owner, or both.
Whoever he is, I have to admit I wasn't catching a great vibe off of him at all. He face was stern and he seemed too anxious. Now maybe I'm way off on this, but hey, that was my gut reaction. We were there for over an hour and not once did I see him loosen up. Working around that kind of tension makes employees make mistakes more often than not, and it was obvious that some of the new employees were stressed.
FOOD: First, the menu. Where were all the French fry choices??? I was under the impression that there was going to be a slew of them, I only saw two.
Anyway...reasonable menu. I "built my own" burger rather than choose one of the gourmet ones. Burger, pepper jack cheese, bacon, potato bun. Order of fries (crispy) and a vanilla shake with peanut butter. My GF got one of the salads.
When the food came out I thought he burger looked small, but I was wrong, it was plenty filling and delicious. So were the fries, although I agree with many here that paying 6 bucks for them is steep. The shake was an experience. I thought that the peanut butter flavor added to the vanilla shake would be in the form of syrup, but instead it was peanut butter chips that were added. Had I known this I would have just ordered the shake without additions, because nearly half of the smallish glass was filled with these chips, which dramatically reduced the amount of actual shake.
I don't fault the waitress for this because I should have been more questioning when I ordered it. But yeah, 7 bucks for what amounted to about 5 or 6 ounces of shake was not a good deal. The shake glass needs to be larger as well. Disappointing because the shake itself was excellent, there just wasn't enough of it.
My GF's salad was ample and she enjoyed it very much, so the food aspect of the place, from a taste and quantity standpoint, was very good, with the exception of the shake quantity that is.
We finished and were thanked by our waitress Luz, it was a pleasure having her as our waitress.
Upon leaving the hostess offered no thanks or smile.
RATING: I'll give it a 7 out of 10, with room for improvement.
It's going to be interesting when we finally get to try this place. I've assumed it would be mobbed 24-7 since opening, but it appears I was wrong?
All new places need several weeks to iron the kinks out. It'll be interesting to see how the reviews progress as it breaks in.... we are certainly not in need of great restaurants here in the H-town/LV area... that's one thing we have in spades. Of course HL LOVES to complain about every restaurant that doesn't offer a $30 meal for $10, it's like a hobby around here LOL. But we never have any problem choosing one of MANY very good restaurants within 10min drive of our home. Good food we got. Another one could probably be supported, but.... not if their "star", the BURGER, isn't any better than local (Taphouse for example), AND is also more expensive....
Keep posting reviews!
Went with my boys today.. Definitely a younger wait staff, a few blunders I would blame more on a lack of leadership than training(I was in my teens once too) The kids walked around a very un-full bar looking for the right patron and struck out twice... there were only 2 more people to check with and they found them on 3rd try. Lead bar-tender (no help, nor direction for the kids(who were truly left to hang here)He should be running the show there.. Another manager type(?) who should walk the floor and check in is not much of a people person. Sorry to say he looks like he wants to be somewhere else. Food was OK, yes just OK. 3 people 3 beers, 3 burgers, and 2 sides 100 dollars. Of course we left a good tip, not the servers fault either. Advice, more support from more experienced staff, and waitress should not be allowed to converse with boyfriend for 15 minutes at reception area. Always the optimists we said it will get better and we wish them the best!
OMG the reviews for this place suck. Six figure bill for burgers that are sub-par. Easy pass for sure. At least this mess isn't in Hackettstown.
Just went past and the parking lot is full, someone must be there despite all the negative comments (3:25 PM)
There are 15 reviews so far on Yelp. The average rating is 2.5 stars.
I think I will wait a little longer to see if they figure things out. A lot of $ to spend on burgers for only 2.5 stars.
I am not rushing to go there either. Besides the poor reviews,they charged a cover on the night before Thanksgiving. For what you may ask? To pay to keep employee's overtime & a bouncer. This comment was made on the Facebook page by the manager or owner. I can somewhat understand a cover charge for a large band but to charge people when they are already coming in to buy drinks & food???? Sorry but that doesn't seem right. Hopefully the issues can get worked out & the costs adjusted, etc.
A cover charge and no music? For OT and a bouncer? WTF? That's just bad business.
One review on Yelp, take it with a grain of salt, can't believe it's true.
Have never heard of a place charging a cover charge just because there was going to be a larger crowd. One would think that a larger crowd would equal more sales to pay the staff, including the bouncer.
My experience there wasn't even at the good level but that picture is obviously not from there. Especially with the caption included... Looks like a McDonald's burger.
Edit: quick image search shows it is. Results here, https://goo.gl/WajM2f. As I said I had a negative experience but I'd much rather them try and and improve on the negative then just view negative results as trolls and nothing changing as a result.
Cover charge for no music? Baaaaaaad....... I would have laughed in their face and left.
Wow. Yeah, I'll wait a couple months before checking it out.
Luca where do you see they had a cover charge on Wednesday. I don’t see the post you said was on Facebook
eapos: back in the 80's when we returned to NJ, we tried the "full parking lot" technique. First was the Italian place on the corner of 519/59 above Phillipsburg, turned into liquor store, then into vacant building or worse now. Lobster Fra Diavolo was served; full on-shell lobster covered in red sauce. My FIL and I just laughed as we returned it to the kitchen for them to husk the lobster. Sauce was like ketchup. Second was that train car out on 46 where the fresh trout left a lasting un-fresh impression throughout the night.
We developed other methods of restaurant picking after that having formed some certain opinions about NJians taste in foods :>)
Hi Jim L - The post is gone now! On the page, they had a post that said something like "to all the partier's coming in tonight, download the X app for music". In that post was several comments - one of them from a person asking "Why was there a cover charge, my daughter went there to meet high school friends, etc." & the response under that is what I mentioned above. The owner/manager said they do the same thing at LVBP. I guess they are cleaning up the Facebook posts.
I've been going to the LVBP for years, and have never heard of a cover charge for NO LIVE MUSIC. Not saying they've never done it, but I've never seen it, never heard of it, and I'm sure someone here on HL would have by now....
LVBP has always had a cover on hell night (Thanksgiving Eve). Only night I believe they do it. It has something to do with the patrons that evening are infamous for not tipping. The cover is split up on the wait staff and bartenders.
went last night...wasnt impressed...the actual crab cake was decent , but the bun was weird...very dry..it only comes with a tiny side of coleslaw...
Well Yelp now has 25 reviews, all bad. Really bad. No incentive to even try this mess of a place. Can only hope it goes down quick and replaced by something of quality. It won't make it through the winter.
Hilarious... Over $20 for a burger and fries and they can't even make a decent burger... For that price you expect top of the line quality meat on a bun with the dressings...
Hmm looks like this place won’t be on my list when I visit the area again.
Just got lunch at a local burger place by me. Not “gourmet” but a decent size cheeseburger with lettuce/tomato, side of fries, and a soft drink for a whopping $6.53.
So 25 Yelp reviews?? And they've been open for just shy of two weeks. What percentage of the customers do you think those Yelp reviews represent? I haven't been there yet, nor do I have any plans to rush over there, but seriously, give it a rest already.
Tracy, so by your logic no reviews should ever be read on any product whether it be a restaurant, car, cell phone, etc?
Google reviews pretty lousy too Tracy. In fact there isn't really any positive reviews. How can there be. If you pay $20 for a hamburger that's cold and small and unremarkable, what else can this place offer? Overpriced, mediocre beer? Better off going to Czig and ordering a burger from Monchy's.
My husband and I went last night. He had the Chipotle Bison Burger and 2 Cigmister beers and I had just a small burger on a potato bun with lettuce, tomato, onion and a whiskey sour. We would give it maybe 3 stars.
First the good -- The burgers were tasty and my husbands burger came with a fried pickle, that he liked. My drink was made well (but small). The restaurant itself is very cool with the brick and stone and high ceiling and the bar area is gorgeous, with it's copper and stone.
The bad -- Both our burgers were very undercooked. I ordered medium well and got medium-rare and my husband ordered medium and got very rare, in addition they were barely warm. I ordered the side house salad and never got it, but they did take it off the bill. I usually love cole slaw but I found theirs way too sweet, and you only get a tiny little black plastic cup (like the ones you would get a condiment in...) so just about 2 forkfuls. It definitely tasted pre-made and not something they actually made on site. Two hamburgers (no sides), beer and a small whiskey sour cost us $52.25, with tip.
I also agree with another poster about the wait staff. My husband asked our waitress what the soup of the day was and she said "I don't know, I just got here." We were like...um, can you find out?
I actually like the burgers at Marley's better. The one's at Marley's are much bigger, come with fries or onion rings and include things like sliced red onion, which is extra at OMG Burger. We might try again sometime in the future, but it won't be our go-to burger joint like I was hoping.
I don't think I said that at all, Joe Friday. I just don't think 25 or so reviews is a very representative sample size. Moreover, I personally think that people are more likely to write a bad review when they have a bad experience than a good review when they were satisfied.
Tracy, that's totally wrong and maybe a thing of the past... If your fully connected to the digital world when you leave a place such as this your prompted to leave a review with Google. I do all the time and really enjoy to give a good review for a new business that was supurb. I've also given a few >3 star reviews. It's very obvious people are less than impressed with the place if majority of 25 reviews are shatty.
Tracy that's a load of crap... I've read reviews on products that were all good. Some a mixed bag. Some all negative. The reviews on this thread for OMG have mostly been negative as well. If they get it together people will praise it. If not, they'll go under.
So reading the comments/reviews on their Facebook page this place is getting lit up. My favorite so far has been the review from Friday night about a bartender confronting patrons in the parking lot after walking out from his rudeness and swearing. And what's even better, the comment reply by the owner of the FB group which I also assume is the owner of the restaurant. I don't know if this place will last till the Spring at this rate.
This place sounds like more of a mess than just high priced food to pay high priced rent. Again, thankfully it's not in Hackettstown. We don't need another Bea's.
They’re averaging 3.7 out of 5 stars on Facebook do not sure how you can say they are getting lit up.
Purely from reading the comments; majority are negative reviews with "does not recommend".
Tracy -- most of the reviews for James on Main are positive, because its a good restaurant. Most of the reviews written about Pandan Room when they opened were (overwhelmingly) extremely positive. The reviews (so far) for Toscano are mostly positive. OMG Burger has many negative and the reviews all seem to be well thought out and full of facts as experienced by the patrons.
Bea's: I think that says it all. Bea's still exists, that says something too. New Maria Bonita started with a number of shaky reviews too. Mama's is a love/hate affair but let's face it, based on the parking lot, the lovers win hands down.
Mets, I agree that it's "easier" to post piss-offs than atta-boys, that's the human nature of complaining, but Bea's says it all.
At best, we have scattered reviews with many being put off at the value they are receiving. Lots of people are going, so they are not poisoning any one or creating such a smell as to keep folks away. Place sounds atmospherically swell, service is somewhat as expected for new, it's just seems the price versus the product being served putting most people off. Sounds like a 50% price drop and everyone would ignore the rest and be doing cartwheels.
Bea's seems to stay the same; Maria Bonita's looked a loser, but seems to have changed for the better, perhaps not perfect, but seemingly much better. So, things CAN change, our reviews can get better, and sometimes they don't but it doesn't seem to matter anyway, people keep coming.
Myself: I almost made it to Bea's, but then the next review round came. I don't need shaky or hit n miss if I can avoid it. Based on the second round of reviews, I have enjoyed Bonita's, and will wait a round or so for OMGs. And Mama's, sure I am a lover but fully understand that Italian and especially pizza are very individual tastes. Otherwise, why does one pass how many pizza shops on your way to your favorite pie? I pass at least five, a few of which have rave HL reviews.
Perhaps I don't get out enough....The reason they charged a cover Thanksgiving Eve, The owner said was due to the known patrons who come that night and they don't tip.
Who are this group of people ? Young kids home from college or who ?
They haven't been opened a year to have had another Thanksgiving Eve. And if there was a bouncer there let him be selective seating Families and mature patrons.
Never heard of that before. From revies of staff and owner I will spend my money elsewhere..
I would NEVER go to a place that charges me a cover when I am going there to drink & eat. Ridiculous!
Maybe out this way covers on Thanksgiving Eve are uncommon but not so much as you head more east in NJ. They are usually not charged though until 10 pm. It's a money grab for sure but places usually anticipate a large hometown home for the holidays reunion crowd and staff up for the crowds.
Tracy, agree completely. Folks seem to forget that food is subjective, for if that weren’t the case then we’d have exactly one type of restaurant...
"SD probably the only reason Bea's is still open is their bar business."
The college kids keep Bea's open, with the bar tab. IMO
Drove by the other day. Could the sign out front be any tackier?
What an eyesore!
2 weeks ago
Thought I'd give my input. We finally made it to OMG for an early dinner. A party of 3 adults... one order of build your own salad.. which was reported to be very good. Another had the Jersey Burger which also was rated as very delicious. I myself had the Brie and Berry burger. I have to say I thought it was a good sized burger and very delicious. The blueberry BBQ sauce was a nice touch. The two of us that had burgers split an order of Sweet potato fries. Which turned out to be perfect as the platter was good sized and I barely could eat half. They give a small cup of Asian type slaw and some pickle chips with the burger. Perhaps it could have been a little more slaw but no real complaint. We had various drinks including a couple beers, ice tea..reg hot tea... no dessert though. Although the carrot cake looked yummy I had no room for it. We left for right at $82 with tip included of 20%. I do not think it was overpriced to the point I would not return. The waitress was very nice and attentive. She also made sure everything was correct for the one with many food allergies. The atmosphere is lovely. I like that they have a balcony above for more seating. If I were to criticize at all my couple thoughts would be.. why not add a small say 1/3 portion of fries with the burger which would be a reasonable offering. Also the wait time between ordering and food delivery could be a tad quicker. I did not time it but I say that only because the place was only half full when we arrived and it seemed a bit long but again that will sort out as they settle in more no doubt. We left at 6pm and the place was packed. I enjoyed the experience and sit here with the taste of Brie and Blueberry on my taste buds. Looking forward to a return at some point when the dust fully settles.
2 weeks ago
Perhaps more amusing is it's next to OLM.
2 weeks ago
Does anyone know if they are fresh cut fries or just frozen ones jazzed up? Doesn’t say on the menu.
Man oh man if they can do a seasoned fry like the ones at Monchy's...I'M THERE!
We've turned a tide. Now I have to ask is it better than a frozen pizza? Joking aside did they raise the price for this combo? If they didn't why did they not start out giving fries with a burger, like any other burger joint?
I'm sure they've seen customer drop off already. Still think this place will go under before summer.
Funny Don, The parking is packed every time I pass by it on my way home from work at 5:30pm.
OK, NOW maybe the wife & I will try to get there sometime during the holiday season.
But they won't be fully "broken in" until 2019.
After all the money spent, I doubt the owners will let it go under. They'll do whatever they can to keep it open. Altho I am surprised they opened someplace so similar to the LVBP only a mile or so away...
It's not summer yet Jim L. Let's wait and see. Even a new Wendy's that opens in a town is packed, like people have never been to a Wendy's.
LOL. That is true, Don. The opening of Taco Bell in Mansfield was as if they were giving away free food!
Until there is more consistency with positive reports, I'll wait it out and see. I'm not in any rush to get there.
I'm waiting also, until I hear what their preparation policy is for the vegetarian burgers.
I'm also hoping their french fries are vegetarian.
1 week ago
I ran into some people last night who had just ate at OMG. Said the service was very slow despite the place not being that busy. Servers seem inexperienced. Also the burgers were nothing memorable & the amount of fries coming with the burgers is very small. I don’t know how the vegetarian options are but I am not going to this place anytime soon.
Their food is better than vegetarian for those who are concerned about animals, it’s Vegan! The Impossible Burger was great and the vegan cauliflower wings perfectly breaded! If it’s dietary allergies, definitely give them a call - it’s not stated in the menu explicitly.
I stopped in there last night to grab a beer. I have eaten there twice and neither experience was stellar for many of the reasons stated previously. I do not mind paying a premium for a craft beer but $8 is getting crazy. Two beer with tip cost me $20.
I can go to the Valley restaurant and get a Sam Adams Winter for $2 bucks draft
Two non-stellar trips where I am guessing you had beers and you paid. Then you go back to buy beers you think are too expensive.
Heck, if I could market like that, I would be rich! Too expensive and yet they get you three times.
What is that, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times and guess what.....I'm a...…frequent flyer.
Beyond the pricing, I mostly hear what could be start-up issues here. Let it shake down a bit to see which way the wind blows.
Kepa, if you are concerned with animals, why patronize/support a place that sells mainly beef burgers? Just wondering.
Movingsoon, their menu seems to cater to a variety of dietary needs, gluten free, vegan, etc. Seems like they are trying to be inclusive and not just a place for carnivores and wheat eaters.
This place is a joke. Crap reviews continue to pile up on Yelp and Google. No reason to go at all.
Because vegan options are great for those who avoid animals for many reasons (health, welfare, environmental, religious) - it's a smart choice for a new eatery to cater to different and popular dietary choices. I personally don't care about the other options they offer.
I was pointing out the odd point happiest girl had of "vegetarian specific prep areas" when that person says they are eating dairy as well. As if dairy production and veal are any better than raising a beef cow, for those who are concerned about it - but maybe they have other reasons to eat vegetarian than animal welfare.
Also, I will say my group had a GREAT experience here besides a 15 minute wait last Sunday night (you are texted when the table opens if you choose to give your number), attentive service, and maybe a 7 minute wait to appetizer, entree barely 5 minutes after that. Everything prepared exactly to details given, and a warm welcome from the servers and owner (assuming) as he walked around the dining area. The place was not insanely crowded, but definitely packed at 6 on Sunday. Will return frequently.
You don’t go to a burger place to get something that is vegetarian- go get sushi instead or shoprites salad bar.
"You don’t go to a burger place to get something that is vegetarian- go get sushi instead or shoprites salad bar."
What an ignorant statement! I guess you never thought about the possibility that someone who eats beef can actually be dining with someone who doesn't? I don't eat beef, but my husband does. We went to a steakhouse a couple weeks ago for our anniversary. He had a steak and I had chicken.
Never said you have to eat a burger, but you cannot expect a place that specializes in selling BURGERS to have a plathora of vegetarian dishes. Your lucky if they have a salad you can pick chicken out of.
A lot of newer trendier eateries like OMG specifically have a vegan menu. Traveling in other cities it’s pretty standard, but a bit less so around here. OMG has 3 vegan burger choices, and dairy -free cheese.
Your error is that you think burgers are only made from meat. A dictionary will give you the meaning of burger. It is a patty made from any ingredient, not solely beef. Beans, nuts, grains, tofu, seeds, vegetables, etc.
There are burger restaurants that are solely vegetarian / vegan as well, like Superiority Burger in Manhattan.
1 week ago
"but you cannot expect a place that specializes in selling BURGERS to have a plathora of vegetarian dishes"
Where did anyone say they expected it?
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