Paving Scam 8/16/19
Please be aware C&C Paving is driving around town today knocking on doors and offering to pave your driveway at a discount. They claim to be working on a paving project on College View (or perhaps some other road on the opposite side of town depending on where you live). They 'finished early' and have a crew just hanging around with nothing to do. Looking for a quick project and will give a great discount, today only.
DPW says they don't have any paving project going on at College View today. It's a high pressure tactic to get business.
The sick thing about this is the man is sending his young son to the door first. Then he comes up to try to make the sale. Teaching the kid to lie and scam at a young age. Shameful.
It's not a scam. And DPW wouldn't know if someone was having paving done. It's actually a good deal and took advantage of it last year with Charlie's paving. They did a beautiful job on my driveway for dirt cheap. Anyone would be an idiot not to take advantage.
"Anyone would be an idiot not to take advantage". A bit strong no? Perhaps you meant to say, if one were actively seeking options or quotes on a driveway paving job, one should at least explore the offer presented.
I do agree I don't think DPW would know about a homeowners paving job. Easy enough to drive to the jobsite to look at the quality of work if the stated reason for the solicitation is in fact true.
He made it sound as if he were paving the actual road, not someone's driveway. That's why I asked DPW.
Admin, if you think I've been too hasty here, please go ahead and remove this thread.
I've seen this type of this before on a tv show about gypsies. This is how they make their money. They buy a bulk of the material and go house to house stating the same thing that was stated above. It's just another way that people are making money. I am sure there is no company per say so if something were to happen, there would not be any insurance.
It's a real company. I don't have any personal or professional experience with them or their work, though.
https://www.homeadvisor.com/rated.CandCAsphaltSpecialist.78573888.html
I would think a paving company would be able to estimate the materials needed for a job and not have so much left over that they could do more complete driveways. It’s not a “scam” because you will get some asphalt, but it’s a way to add a high pressure sales tactic to the job and potentially install shoddy materials.
I wouldn't call it a "scam". I had similiar experience 5 years ago. Company was paving my neighbor's driveway and knocked on my door. I had a big pot hole at the end of my driveway and he asked if i wanted it fixed for dirt cheap. I agreed and they did it real fast, made a few more bucks and i got my driveway repaired that i was pushing off. If i didn't need the job done i would have just said no. I am still please witht he job and didn't feel i got "scammed". Don't remember the company so not sure if it was this one but sounds like it is common practice to go around a job site to see if there might be other jobs they can get in for the day.
I did the same thing with my gutters. neightbor was redoing his and i went over and asked them for a quote on mine, he came over and did it on the spot for 1/2 what i was quoted by another company since he said he was already here and had all the materials and machinery ready to go.
Well gutters are a bit different than asphalt. They don’t precut the length of gutters needed because the roll can be used any day until it’s gone. It’s risky to overload a truck with asphalt because if you don’t use it that day it’s scrap (and if you get something that’s been sitting in the truck all day those “leftover” asphalt jobs may not apply/cure properly and could peel or crumble sooner than a fresh job).
So yes, the contractor wants to sell the leftover bits rather than scrap it. For a pothole it’s probably a good deal but I wouldn’t have them actually pave anything like a driveway without getting a fresh batch just for me.
I woulda passed too, but......seems there is no bad news here.....
https://www.bbb.org/us/nj/washington/profile/asphalt/cc-asphalt-specialist-0221-90180028
I wish this "scam" would come to my area, I need a very small section of driveway paved and would be glad for a price break.
Sounds like it is a tactic - not a scam. Scam means you get ripped off. This is just a tactic they are using to get more business. I see no harm in that.
Paving involves more then some asphalt and a shovel. If a contractor has moved his equipment, asphalt and workers into a neighborhood it makes good business sense to find jobs without a long distance move of equipment. And it is easy to look at the numerous broken driveways around to see where there is a possible customer. I benefitted from a company that was in the neighborhood sealing driveways. I asked for a discount because they were close by and they agreed.
This is a well known scam. Maybe not in every case but very often. Try putting "paving scam" in Google.
More of a question is if they had a permit to solicit in town? It's against the town ordinance.
This one from the OP may be legitimate, or they are using a legitimate company's name. According to the Better Business Bureau,
"To make sure this does not happen to you, here are a few red flags that you can look for in a driveway repair scam:
There are leftover materials from another job. Professional asphalt contractors know, with great accuracy, how much paving material is needed to complete each project. Rarely will they have large quantities of leftover material.
You are pushed to make a quick decision. Trustworthy contractors will provide a written estimate that will be valid for days or even weeks. It should specify in detail the work to be performed and the total price. They also don’t mind you checking them out before signing a contract.
Cash-only sales. Most reputable contractors will take checks or credit cards and don’t require payment up front. BBB recommends never paying more than 1/3 up front, and only with a written contract.
The company is from out of state. Look at the truck the representative travels in. If it is unmarked or has an out-of-state license plate, be cautious. Even if the representative claims to have a local phone number, scammers can easily purchase disposable cell phones to provide a local number in the area they are soliciting. Also, don’t be afraid to ask to see their driver’s license. If the worker is from out of state, how likely are they to come back if a problem arises in the future?
If you suspect that you are dealing with a paving scammer, report them to your local police department and the BBB.
https://www.bbb.org/central-georgia/news-events/news-releases/2017/01/beware-of-paving-scams/
Also, from that same BBB page, it explains why in these case isn't a "Tactic", as someone said, but a true scam:
"Usually the setup involves a less-than-trustworthy sales representative visiting your home claiming they have leftover materials from a previous paving job. They are looking for homes with cracked driveways and say they can take care of your driveway for a very large discount over the normal price. The catch is that you have to pay upfront. From there, consumers have complained to the BBB about multiple issues.
Since the representative is using leftover materials, the quality of work is poor because there is normally not enough asphalt to adequately cover the area. This causes uneven spreading and thin layers which increases the risk of cracking or crumbling of the consumer's driveway. The other issue consumers complain about is that the representative begins work, only to find out there is not enough asphalt to complete the job that same day. He or she will apologize and promise to return the next day to finish. Consumers report the representatives never come back and the consumer is left with an unfinished driveway and less money in their bank account. If they do return, the price to finish will be significantly increased.
Often, consumers do not have a way to contact the representative or the company they work for because they were never given a business card, they only have a cell number (that no longer works) and they don't have an agreement in writing."
This type of asphalt paving is usually a scam.These guys apply a thin coat of asphalt to your driveway and take your cash.The paving job cracks and falls apart shortly after the job is done. Almost the same with fly by night driveway sealers.some of the scammers actually apply used motor oil to the driveway and take your money.
https://patch.com/new-jersey/longvalley/driveway-repair-scam-making-rounds-morris-co
There is a paving scam going on locally, police from multiple townships have verified it.
Hi my name is Wes Cooper I’m the owner of C&C Asphalt from Washington New Jersey. I don’t lie to get work my reputation speaks for it self! My company has a A+ rating with the BBB and my son was on summer break! I was only trying to teach him the meaning of hard work and the value of a dollar. I don’t pave public streets or town projects I find this guys post are insulting and degrading my company I has remained in the same location and offered quality work for over 20 years and if he wanted to question my motives he should have been a man and asked!
Hjjk: while I know that's a real news story, it's sort of weird that the Chester police spokesman seems to be quoting the BBB article..... It's good he is well read I guess.
BBB 2017: "There are leftover materials from another job. Professional asphalt contractors know, with great accuracy, how much paving material is needed to complete each project. Rarely will they have large quantities of leftover material."
Chester Police 2019: ""Professional asphalt contractors know, with great accuracy, how much paving material is needed to complete each project. Rarely will they have large quantities of leftover material," Chester police said."
C&C's reviews speak for themselves; BBB et al. The OP does admits he does not know if this is a scam, he was not scammed, and our local police are issuing general careabouts that would apply to anyone coming to your door.
The other police article from Patch is for Morris County and that guy is reading the BBB article....
Personally, I would say we are in the libel area here, we should pull this thread NOW> or at least neuter it to avoid naming names.
Couple years ago my neighbor was having their driveway repaved and they had a couple extra ton left over they knocked on the door asked my wife if we wanted the bottom of our driveway done it was in pretty rough shape my wife said how much they wouldnt take a dime and did a great job we did tip them to get some adult beverages ..
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