Gas prices

Gas prices

I noticed the gas prices Hackettstown are much higher then around us and furter east.
Even on 46 in great meadows it is much cheaper.

And i am a paramedic just noticed while driving at work.


Yeah it’s been like that for about 2 weeks or so now

Superchefsgirl Superchefsgirl
Mar '20

Yes, we have been writing extensively about this on the Heating and Oil prices 2019-2020 thread.

I am actually surprised that prices at ALL stations are not down to the $2 range yet.

With the price of WTI crude going towards $20 per barrel soon, prices should soon hit under $2 everywhere in NJ in the next week.

Sadly, I think we all know the State of NJ will use the gas tax laws that allow them to raise the tax upon low demand to further tax us. So, when prices go back up, the sticker shock will be worse than ever.

Of course, with most either working from home, or the few that are still required to go in, like a valued Paramedic, that low demand of fuel is going to keep the price low for awhile. I filled my tank at the Great Meadows station that is $1.87 last week and I still have not used much of the gas, many of us are in the same position.

I believe the Costco down in Flemington is down below $2 right now. Usually the other stations follow their lead about a week later, so by the time the other stations are at what Costco is, Costco will be .20 cents lower than them already.

I would like to say enjoy the low prices, but I would gladly take normal, livable $2.50 per gallon and not have the crisis that we are going through.

Never thought I would want high price anything, but when we see that for gas prices, it will be a sign that thing are going back to "normal".

The Rhyme Animal The Rhyme Animal
Mar '20

My parents in the u.k pay around 6 dollars a gallon I believe so we should all consider ourselves lucky!

Mervin
Mar '20

I filled up at RDJ Shell a few days ago. Price was $1.899 gallon for regular.

Big Al Big Al
Mar '20

1.87.9 in Great Meadows!

Stymie Stymie
Mar '20

This has been going on awhile longer. I noticed several weeks ago that gas was cheaper near my office in Livingston that it is at home, which is not normally the case.

Tracy Tracy
Mar '20

I am an American. I do consider myself, and the rest of us, very lucky. Quite frankly, I dont care what they pay. We still pay too much. Oil companies research, drill, produce. The government does not do anything but tax. Look at the tax per gallon per the corporate profit per gallon and tell me who is fleecing who.

I'm not ok with paying too much and dont care what other countries, especially socialist ones do.

Animal_Lover_Always
Mar '20

Animal_Lover_Always

I love less expensive gas too, but you do realize all those tax dollars are "supposed" to be going to maintain the road surface, including the signage, guardrails, etc. don't you? As long as that money goes to proper roadwork , including pothole repair, etc. I don't mind paying taxes on gas to get equal returns in terms of road safety and maintenance.

Of course when the state diverts road money to other programs or to essentially worthless programs like the "wall" for the Delaware Water Gap curves on Rt. 80, that's another story. They (the state) claims deaths and injuries due to rockfalls on the road, but Knowlton Twp. and its first responders have said they haven't had any of those so-called problems that the state of NJ insists on having a program for. The problem is SPEEDING in that narrow area, not the rocks. They should work to fix that, not waste money and ruin the views possibly destabilize the rock face. Then they will have something for their fancy fence to catch!

Phil D. Phil D.
Mar '20

New Jersey Gasoline Tax is imposed as 41.1 cents per Gallon. High price gas or Low Price Gas the tax collected is the same.

Dr. Pipes Dr. Pipes
Mar '20

Wow was I put in my place or what lol

Mervin
Mar '20

Dr.Pipes, you are correct on your statement. However, as we come out of this terrible time, just when we won't need another kick from Trenton, we will get one, come fall, in the form of an increased fuel tax, which will go up.

Once the expected revenue declines from the lack of fuel consumption, the 41.4 cents per gallon tax will go up. The NJ Dept of Treasury will most certainly raise the tax when they assess the shortfall of fuel tax revenue.

They do that calculation and review of fuel tax collected every August. They cannot raise the tax before then, but we can fully expect that to happen, as we push our way to becoming top is the nation in yet another tax, fuel, within a couple more years.

We are currently 11th in the nation in terms of fuel tax. Expect us to be in the top 3 in a couple of years. .

The Rhyme Animal The Rhyme Animal
Mar '20

"Once the expected revenue declines from the lack of fuel consumption, the 41.4 cents per gallon tax will go up. The NJ Dept of Treasury will most certainly raise the tax when they assess the shortfall of fuel tax revenue."

Yup, the NJ government is loving this lock down. Nobody is buying gas so they can raise the tax. People are at home shopping online at Chewy and Amazon, buying tons more than they need so they are collecting tons of sales tax

Calico696 Calico696
Mar '20

Really Cal.....that’s your conclusion in all this; a government opportunity to mess with us? You should run as a reform candidate. Huge sigh for humanity.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Mar '20

SD - Read my post again. As usual, you are twisting it. I didn't say they caused it, I said they will love the extra tax revenue. Never let a good crisis go to waste, right?

Calico696 Calico696
Mar '20

Sister in NC is telling me their paying $1.45 PG. Gotta love Jersey.

auntiel auntiel
Mar '20

I honestly don’t think “the NJ government is loving this lock down” for any reason anyone can fathom. Just don’t see how that type of rhetoric serves anything. It’s kinda tough, gonna get tougher, I am thankful for what our NJ government has accomplished given our proximity to the epicenter. We might not be China/SKorea, but don’t think we’ll be Italy/Spain either.

Sorry if I misread what you meant.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Mar '20

I've read it this way.

Crude oil at $30 a barrel results in a fair profit for the producers. A few weeks back the Saudis suddenly dropped their oil prices to $20 a barrel, which was well under the cost of production. It was said the Saudis were trying to damage the economic oil markets in both the US and Russia. It was followed shortly by President Trump declaring a national emergency. The moment he did this, it allowed US Treasury funds to be used to buy as much $20 per barrel oil available. This oil was then transferred to the US oil reserves. Brilliant business move by a government. We are experiencing a glut of oil acquired below cost. Beat them at their own game.

Jeff Saunders Jeff Saunders
Mar '20

Saudi Arabia produces oil at the lowest cost per bbl of any country in the world. US oil produced by fracking is a very high cost per bbl.
Saudi/ Russian price war is very destructive to many US energy companies.

Stymie Stymie
Mar '20

RDJ Shell station in Great Meadows 1.89 per gallon for gas.Panther Valley Shell 2.49 a gallon for the same gas? Whats wrong with this pricing?

murof
Mar '20

Jeff S - Congress did not include the $3B needed to buy/transport/store the oil in last week's $2T bill. The Energy Dept has since withdrawn its tender offer to start buying oil for the strategic reserve until it has funding.

kenny kenny
Apr '20

We have 635m barrels in the strategic oil reserves with room for 77m more; the price of that would be the $3b mentioned.

The question was whether stimulus money should be used to bail out oil producers to purchase the 77m to go on top of the 635m we already have or use that stimulus money elsewhere like say unemployment for example.

If we had propped up profit-rich oil companies, our price of gas would remain the same or rise and $3B would have be diverted into Exxon’s pocketbooks.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Apr '20

Calico, the extra sales tax generated from Chewy and Amazon is not enough to make up for all restaurants, malls, movie theaters, etc. etc. etc being closed. Not by a long shot.

MeisterNJ MeisterNJ
Apr '20

F Oil. We need to get to renewable energy. Look how clean the earth is now? A Solar array covering the entire state of Arizona would power the world. It is possible and should happen slowly before 2050.


While I agree 200% Ijay, and while, even counting the past 4 years, solar has mushroomed since 2008. However, the fact is since 2017 we have basically flatlined or gone down in the number of new installs; commercial, utility, and residential — don’t matter. I once suggested twas the industry for youngsters for a clean lifetime career. Since 2017, employment is down. Given volume effect on pricing, this is literally economically impossible without artificial stimulus.

What does matter is egregious tariffs and a penchant for big oil and old coal. Cause and effect and the cause is obvious.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Apr '20

Gas under $2 doesn't do renewables any favors.

MeisterNJ MeisterNJ
Apr '20

I would rather be paying 4 dollars a gallon gas then be in this situation. Hands down.

CraftBeerBob CraftBeerBob
Apr '20

So true, CBB.

Calico696 Calico696
Apr '20

Cheap gas is money in the bank for anyone that drives.
As long as they keep a clamp on their driving habits.
Key is higher effeciency in vehicles.
I had 3 Jeeps- 6 cylinders. Not a lead foot. Could never get over 17mpg.
Moved over to a Honda CRS- upped it to 31 mpg.
Now Toyota RAV4-Hybrid Limited-35-38 MPG.
Same driving habits- using half the fuel.
Producing half the hydrocarbons.
Spending half the $$$ on fuel.
Cutting my carbon footprint in half on transportation.

Stymie Stymie
Apr '20

Gas tax to drop by 8.3 cents today...

ianimal ianimal
Oct '21

Yes, the tax is supposed to drop today. Stations are quick to put a tax increase to us, often right as the clock strikes 12a.

Thus far, on my drive to work this AM, I saw ZERO stations that had dropped their price .08 cents to account for this decrease in the tax.

Since it was announced that the tax would reduce in late August, little has been said or publicized.

My guess is that most gas stations will try to conveniently forget about that decrease in the tax and leave their prices right where they are.

And, strange with the gas tax transportation "formula" that determines if the tax goes up or down, in an election year, the total sales suddenly add up to give us a tax decrease. Something doesn't smell right with the entire thing.

The Rhyme Animal The Rhyme Animal
Oct '21

East of us, specifically the Parsippany area, I got gas for $2.97. I was pleasantly surprised. When I came home I saw there was no price drop in our area at all. There was one station that was $3.23. That's a big difference!

Parental Unit Parental Unit
Oct '21

Most likely the gas will drop after their tanks are empty as they have already paid for the gas and had the higher tax included. Time will tell.

Richie
Oct '21

They don't wait for the tanks to be empty before raising the price.


I was talking about the gas tax, not a price increase.

Richie
Oct '21

In Washington and Clinton, gas prices were raised Thursday, went back to Wednesday's prices on Friday. Not shocked, sadly.

maja2 maja2
Oct '21

I'm really surprised that nobody here is talking about gasoline prices at all. I found this old thread. Be sure to read the first post here. Two years ago regular was $1.89/gallon. In Clinton today and regular was $4.34/gallon. Diesel was $6.25/gallon. How are prices out in H'town? I haven't been out that way in awhile.

One thing for sure is, it's highway robbery!

Calico696 Calico696
1 week ago

Use gasbuddy.com


I paid 4.09 today for regular at Exon on route 57 . Gas prices were low two years ago because nobody was driving anywhere due to the pandemic .They are high now because the investors don't want the oil companies to step up production so they can make up the loss from two years ago and then some - price gouging pure and simple . I drive a fuel efficient vehicle and don't drive much more than 100 miles per week , but the heating oil prices are a killer .I just paid a 668 dollar bill for 150 gallons . It's a pellet or wood stove for next winter for sure !


Lol yeah ok. That’s the reason for the insane prices.

Philliesman Philliesman
1 week ago

Reason for the high price now is the conflict in Ukraine.

The reason they were low two years ago was no one was driving, like BAM mentioned.

3wbdwnj 3wbdwnj
1 week ago

I drove the length of NJ yesterday (from Htown to Cape May) and the prices are insane. We use diesel and I was on GasBuddy the entire time looking for the best price. We found a *bargain* near Millville for $5.99. Most places were between $6.19 to $6.49.

FarmerJake FarmerJake
1 week ago

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