Stage IV Cancer Cure
Under 10 bucks.
Will anyone believe it...nope.
Just go home and die..the doctors will tell you and I would say don't think Im going do that...it's Baking Soda and Molasses...kids.
Peace out
Raise your PH - and you kill it - many many videos on Youtube on how to beat it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl8Y8I_TsjI
RU No harm in trying eh? By stage 4, you've been through the $65k a month treatment. What's $10 more going to hurt?!
I do work with someone who was a stage 4. She did a combo of herbal stuff and diet change after the docs gave her a few months. Still at work 10 years later.
maja2 The Onion covers a similar scenario...
http://www.theonion.com/article/delighted-health-insurance-executives-gather-in-ou-35289
yankeefan I know someone who cured her friend with the use of herbs, vitamins and nutrition.
I also know someone whose cancerous growth on her finger shrunk and ultimately disappeared using IP6.
happiest girlMy friend had stage IV colon cancer, spread to her liver and left kidney. After surgery, chemo/radiation didn't help (actually it was killing her) her oncologist at Sloan-Kettering told her there was nothing else they could do and basically gave her weeks to live. She was supposed to start palliative care at home and wait to die.
Instead, she went online and found a site and followed a plan which included the above baking soda and molasses remedy, no sugar (or anything that turns into sugar, like fruit, etc), she juiced vegetables, took herbs (frankincense was a big one) and did some mixture of flax oil and quark cheese, Himalayan salt baths, used medical marijuana gel and got a far-infrared sauna and some other things.
That was 4 1/2 years ago...
A little over a year after being sent home to die, she made a follow-up appointment with the oncologist. She had written down her "protocol" because she was so excited that he could use it to help his other dying patients. The guy wouldn't even look at the protocol and refused to even discuss what she did and how she cured herself! She offered to just leave it with him so he could at least read it at home or give it to any patients he was sending home to die - he would not even touch the paper she was trying to hand him. This is Sloan-Kettering who profess to be looking for a cancer cure.
Everyone can come to their own conclusion about that.
Heidi Lots of BS surrounding cancer, it's treatment, and possible cures... and I'm not talking about alternative medicine, I'm talking about establishment medicine/AMA/big pharma.
JeffersonRepub I have a friend that beat stage 4 lung cancer. Chemo and keeping her body Alkaline, and using mushroom supplements. She was diagnosed with stage 4 almost 3 years ago. She is cancer free now. All the tumors disappeared.
There are over the counter pills to control the alkalinity.
Remember....."Cancer Loves Acidity!"
She passed her supplements list to two other stage 4 people, and the one stage 4 bladder and prostate cancer, is cancer free. The other person, the tumors are reducing in size.
Embryodad Theres no money in curing cancer. The money is in all the chemicals they pump into you then tell you it didn't work. It's one if the biggest scams going in America. Glad to see people that don't listen to these so called cancer specialist quacks and have the courage to try herbal medicine to cure themselves. I will never give 1 penny to a cancer charity for this very reason. My theory is that they know how to cure it but then everyone would live too long and pharma isn't making money.
LJRubi This is a little older but just to get the other side of the story here. I think I'd like to hear what the Yale neurologist has to say on the subject.
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-hidden-cancer-cure/
Dancicus Fighticus i work in cancer research for a biotech company. if we had the cure we certainly wouldnt be sitting in it. this makes me laugh. Cancer is so incredibly complex and now we are finding specific to each individual. one global cure for all cancer is not going to happen at least in our lifetimes. But we are making great strides especially in something called immuno oncology. where we make our own immune systems more efficient at identifying and "shutting off" cancer cells. our best hope is to get this to a livable treatable disease like we have with HIV in the western world now. Sure it will cost money for the treatment but at least it wont be the death sentence as it was and can still be in advanced stages.
Buddy19 --
I know about the latest protocol for boosting the immune system. But you have to acknowledge that is exactly what a nutritional approach addresses. That is why so many people have reversed cancer without conventional drugs & chemo. They made their immune system strong via nutrition and fought off the cancer. It is also true cancer feeds off sugar, and that an acidic body is prone to sickness. The body needs to be alkaline to be in good health.
Hey Buddy, how has CRISPR impacted the research? Do you work with it at all? I have heard a bit about it but wanted to hear from someone in the industry.
"But we are making great strides especially in something called immuno oncology. where we make our own immune systems more efficient at identifying and "shutting off" cancer cells."
We already know how to make our own immune systems more efficient. Why a company would be spending millions of dollars to "research" something that has been known for decades makes me laugh.
Even the freaking Native Americans knew that certain plants, herbs and mushrooms cured diseases by boosting the immune system to combat disease. Now we need "scientists" to "research" this in 2017?
Why the hell doesn't someone just ASK the many people who CURED their own cancer???? All of them seem to be happy to share the info for free.
https://www.amazon.com/Emperor-All-Maladies-Biography-Cancer/dp/1439170916
I recommend reading the book, The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer. It is very informative. There is also a Ken Burns 3 part series on the book.
Greg Gee Heidi. Why not market it youself and make a zillion bucks not to mention being one swell person.
You would think someone would give a shot at making people well and making a zillion dollars.
For all the folks with extended lives, how many would have extended by doing nothing. How many died as expected and how many died earlier than anticipated.
Darned anecdotes always sound like statistical science.
I still might try it.
Strangerdanger Extremely high doses of vitamin C given intravenously kills cancer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiiBGwccztQ
Also, B17 from apricot seeds.
Check our Dr Michael Greger's videos on utube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXXXygDRyBU
No one wants to hear this, but consider becoming vegetarian or better yet, vegan.
fascinating all these alleged miracle cures show up after a patient has already had scientific type care yet none of the alleged curing could have come from that........it could only have been the unverified woo..
Whip So true, Whip. You got to it before I could. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc at its finest.
The two people I spoke of did not have any *scientific type care* that you spoke of, Whip. I find it amazing that people think positive results can only come from man-made protocols.
In response to Heidi, we are just starting to learn how to improve our immune systems to fight cancer. We are now in the monoclonal antibody age of science and using biologics that target certain cell pathways rather than chemicals alone to fight all sorts of diseases not just cancer. All of these new cutting edge treatments are targeted so as to reduce the horrible side effects that chemotherapy usually provides. (Mabs have their own set of side effects too, and some that can be lethal if not monitored correctly)
Think of it like a guided missile (Mabs) compared to carpet bombing (chemotherapy)
Cancer is a scary thing and i am all for whatever a person thinks or hopes is best for them. My advice is to research everything. Research standard of cares, research clinical trials, research monoclonal antibodies, research natural therapies, research it all and make the best decision out of all that research.
Heidi, It is not about making your immune systems more efficient. Cancer hides by pretending it is a normal cell. It gives the handshake to the immune system - B and T cells - like they are regular cells in the body but they really are not. Immuno therapy teaches the B and T cells to attack those cells even though they are giving the handshake. It teaches them to look for the differences that they didnt notice before and attack those cells with the differences. There are many types of differences in many types of cancer which is why someone above said that there is no global cure for cancer.
If there was a secret potion, it would be way more out there than Youtube videos. If I knew how to kill cancer, I would either share it or use it in some way, I wouldnt sit on it. Even Snowden and others broke the spy secrets and spilled the beans. No one is sitting on things just to get a paycheck when they could be rich with the cure or a worldwide hero.
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Troublemaker Happiest, i think that most people who object to this line of thinking (of which I am included) find issue with anecdotal evidence. We have no proof that any one thing helped to cure the cancer. That's why lab testing and clinical trials are done, to eliminate statistical noise. I am sure that plenty of people who tried "natural" therapy also died from cancer. It's just that we remember ones who survived and ascribe it to the natural therapy. (and I know you didn't use it, but natural is a term I hate. As though uranium and arsenic aren't natural) That's why a controlled study is needed to determine what is actually helping. I also find it amazing that people have such distrust of man-made medicine. The rise of science-based medicine is what has extended our life expectancy and enhanced our quality of life. If herbal or nutritional therapy can be found to work in a lab setting, I'm all for it.
" I also find it amazing that people have such distrust of man-made medicine. "
Why? "Man-made medicine" has killed an awful lot of people. Sure, it's also saved an awful lot of people. But it HAS killed and maimed many many thousands, over the years. Distrust of big pharma is something they have created by their own actions.
Phen-phen anyone? (and so many others)
And while there my be "clinical proof" (whatever that means- that is a whole 'nuther discussion, encompassing "studies", who pays for them, and confirmation bias) that things such as radiation and chemo "kill cancer"... those same things can also NOT kill cancer, and the person dies anyway. Just like with other mentioned treatments.
It's not as cut and dried as you make it out to be (but again, another discussion: study funding, politics in the AMA, profit, confirmation bias, etc...)
I will say : talk to anyone who is cancer-free after being cured by traditional treatment protocol and ask - will they go thru this treatment again or they would choose to use only non-traditional medicine.
"My advice is to research everything. Research standard of cares, research clinical trials, research monoclonal antibodies, research natural therapies, research it all and make the best decision out of all that research."
Often there is no time to do research if you are diagnosed with stage 4. Between being in denial and/or completely devastated by the diagnosis, not many people are able to think rationally and analyze the situation and advises, sift thru the stories (good and bad) they are told and false-optimistic peer/family pressure. In addition people have to deal with insurance coverage, they usually continue working to keep insurance and take care of family.
Lena I never wrote the phrase "clinical proof" since I myself would opt for the term "evidence." I said I am likely to consider alternative treatment if it has evidence (more than anecdotal) that it works more often than not. As for man-made medicine, I'm pretty sure if given the choice, people would still choose to be vaccinated and go to the cardiologist if they need their hearts looked at. Are there incidents of people dying despite or maybe even due to, medical care? Absolutely. But on the whole, people are better off seeking science-based medicine than not. I don't think you can even compare the amount of people who have benefited from modern medicine with those who have died from it. I'm pretty sure people from any other time in the past would gladly choose the medical science we have now as opposed to what was available to them. Is it perfect? Nope. Nothing is. But it's the best thing we've got. I'm with you on the skepticism (because you should have a healthy level of it for everything) but I guess I just see much more good than harm. I care a lot about people and I'd hate to see them distrust medicine to their detriment.
" I don't think you can even compare the amount of people who have benefited from modern medicine with those who have died from it"
I think you can, 300,000 people die every year from medical malpractice... be it the meds or the medical training (largely paid for by big pharma in many cases)
You know what works best? PREVENTATIVE medicine. We need some "studies" done on that. Oh, wait- there's no money to made in that, no awards to be won. My bad.
Let's say this: I like your term "skepticism". That's good. Healthy skepticism. Just like I had when statins first started being prescribed for high cholesterol/heart disease. Well, looky there.... looks like the medical community is finally (no choice) changing their tune on that one. If I need surgery or emergency care, western medicine cannot be beat. If a tumor can be removed, YES. But when we move on to the next steps of chemo and radiation, they simply haven't been shown to have positives greater than negatives... as you said above: you only HEAR about the people chemo SAVED (altho that can't be actually proven either), because that's what big pharma WANTS you to hear. It all comes down to same thing: money. Unfortunately. I don't doubt the hearts and intentions of scientists trying to find cures for things, but when their work is being funded, directed, and edited/censored by the same big pharma cutting there checks, the system can no longer be trusted.
Funny, sounds just like government...lol
I agree that preventative medicine is the direction we should be heading in, and it's already being done. Vaccines are preventative medicine. Dr. Jonas Salk got a few awards for his polio vaccine. The HPV vaccine, that's intended to prevent cervical cancer. I'm pretty sure the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is trying to eradicate malaria. Sunscreen, the exercise craze, and nutrition all seem to be pretty big business. Those are concerned with prevention, just to name a few. Even my yearly physical and blood tests are preventative care in the most basic form. But I'm hoping gene therapy brings a lot more of it.
I get that money drives the medical industry, but it drives everything. Isn't it possible that medical companies can make money and help people at the same time? The two are not mutually exclusive. And the medical industry has changed its tune a number of times. That will continue. Science incorporates new evidence and changes all the time. That's the best thing about it. And while there are bumps in the road, we are far better off now that at any other time in history.
And while I can't speak to the accuracy of the 300K, how many of them would have died before then if not for the modern medical care they received throughout their lives? I'm not sure. How many were terminal cases? I don't know that either. My thought is that the world population being big enough to support that 300K is due to better prenatal and infant care, nutrition, and modern treatment. But in the end, no one makes it out alive. Haha!
"Isn't it possible that medical companies can make money and help people at the same time? The two are not mutually exclusive. "
I agree with that. But I have seen, over the years, too many times, drugs that "apparently do no harm... but we can't prove they do any good either" be released because they "apparently do no harm" only to find out 10-20-30 years later, they do.
I don't mean to be TOO skeptical, but when I did some deep digging and found out the truth behind all the cholesterol studies in the 20th century, my eyes were opened to the fact that the phrase "a study says" means absolutely nothing in today's money-corrupted world. I don't think drug companies kill people for profit (like tobacco did for so many years), but I also don't think they have purely altruistic goals, either.
caveat lector
Lena,
research everything....
so, the patient must research on his/herown, while the research groups, study groups, universities do their own research, too.
Asking a patient to do their own research on any given disease (or health condition), as almost the same as asking a patient to perform a surgery on himself . "bring you own meds and scalpels to ER, please".
About baking soda - yes, this is helpful, if..... IF you take it the correct way.
first - not all baking soda is pure and, therefore, safe to consume. Most have "left overs" of the production cycle. some - don't - unconfirmed - Red Mill and Arm and Hammer.
CVS "pharmacist" told me that "pharmaceutical" grade is only 96% pure. WTF..!!!!
above brands seems to be purer.
Second - you must administer it the correct way - baking soda must be "slaked" in HOT water and drank very warm on an empty stomach, additional cup of water to be drank right after it, 30 min before any, ANY food/beverage intake.
Additionally - this method is a temporary "fix" in order to alkaline your body. Others, more permanents, are the diet and diet, and, again, diet.
Another note: the doctor's behavior with surviving patient and patient's attempt to share
her protocol, tells alot about doctor's (and medical industry in whole) point of view on the subject.
Buddy19,
The research and treatments are the "never-ending" journey. Curing has an end. the mere definitions of "treatment" and "cure" speak for themselves.
JeffersonRePUB,
Correct.
PS (finally), I'm glad that those people were able to cure themselves.
Pyc Interesting read on Gersons Therapy
. http://web.randi.org/swift/charlotte-gerson-promoter-of-cancer-therapy-that-failed-the-wellness-warrior1
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