Warren county in the news...2020

Warren County Community College is 1 of nation’s most successful, this publication says
Warren County Community College already boasts one of New Jersey’s top graduation rates, and now a leading higher ed publication says it is one of the best at guaranteeing student success. That’s according to a new report by The Chronicle of Highe...
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2020/01/warren-county-community-college-is-1-of-nations-most-successful-this-publication-says.html

Bug3
Jan '20

I would recommend Raritan Valley CC to those going the community college route...

ianimal ianimal
Jan '20

CCM is better than Warren County too

Bug3
Jan '20

You pay twice as much when you go out of county. If you're playing a sport and going to school, then CCM is a better option. Otherwise if you live in Warren County, go there.

Metsman Metsman
Jan '20

RVCC's out of county rate is $212 per credit; WCCC's in-county rate is $173. That's only 20% more, not twice as much. The extra $35 is money well-spent, if you ask me.

ianimal ianimal
Jan '20

Well CCM is twice as much. It's $166 per credit in County and $303 if you're out of county. If you're playing baseball like my son did, then it's better to go to CCM.

Metsman Metsman
Jan '20

If you go to CCM, you ARE paying double for the credit. It's $137 per credit for in-county students; out-of-county pay an additional $137 per credit.

Cops are Socialist Cops are Socialist
Jan '20

All the more reason to recommend RVCC (-;

ianimal ianimal
Jan '20

Also, if WCCC does not offer a program that RVCC offers they will reimburse the out of county fees.

keanstudent keanstudent
Jan '20

$280 for Purdue Online. $380 for in-state Rutgers and $950 for Princeton proving that it’s much more expensive to be smarter. Stupid pays ;-)

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Jan '20

I went the partial CC route.
Attended 3 semesters at a NY State CC.
Transferred all credits to a well thought of 4 year University in NJ.
Turned out well financially.

Stymie Stymie
Jan '20

Great idea!

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Jan '20

WCCC, offers automotive technology which other colleges do not. My son attended and got a great education. At 28 years old my son works for the largest Porsche dealership in the country as a silver tech, which is a very high rating. And it turned out very well financially in the long run. Plus my son is continuing education through Porsche on their new models. Don't underestimate WCCC.

pampurr pampurr
Jan '20

No matter personal opinion, congrats to WCCC!

Mel81 Mel81
Jan '20

You will also get in-county rates at another county college if wccc doesn’t offer the class you need.

3wbdwnj 3wbdwnj
Jan '20

Darn cops kill all the fun.

https://wrnjradio.com/police-2-charged-for-doing-doughnuts-in-oxford-furnace-lake-parking-area/

Calico696 Calico696
Jan '20

Anything involving doughnuts is sure to get police attention.

Stymie Stymie
Jan '20

Bogus charge, maintaining a nuisance.....can’t imagine being me, being arrested for that. Been warned for far worse sh.... stuff than that.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Jan '20

You don't have those hyphenated last names do you?


What was THAT? Residents swear mysterious booms have shaken houses in Warren County.
It was 1 a.m. on Christmas Eve when there arose such a clatter, Gregg Wiseburn awoke to see what was the matter. What was it? He can’t say. But it sure wasn’t reindeer. “It literally sounded like a bomb went off,” the 38-year-old Washington Boroug...
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/2020/01/what-was-that-residents-swear-mysterious-booms-have-shaken-houses-in-warren-county.html

Bug3
Jan '20

The "booms" in Washington Borough have been going on for years. So much so, that people get lambasted if they ask "Did anyone hear that boom last night?" on the the regular Washington Borough FB page. It's never been disclosed what the booms are from. It's kind of crazy.

Calico696 Calico696
Jan '20

Probably this(lol)

http://www.hackettstownlife.com/forum/922250

Bug3
Jan '20

Probably aliens.

Calico696 Calico696
Jan '20

Stabbing in P'burg.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/phillipsburg/2020/01/man-stabbed-in-phillipsburg-boarding-house-cops-say.html

Calico696 Calico696
Jan '20

Warren County resident's dog show success.

https://www.nj.com/entertainment/2020/02/westminster-2020-nj-dog-wins-obedience-for-5th-time-retiring-trophy-just-call-us-the-alpha-state.html

Calico696 Calico696
Feb '20

Awful fire in Oxford yesterday.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/2020/02/residents-escape-fire-before-it-destroys-warren-county-home-photos.html

Calico696 Calico696
Feb '20

Horrendous crash on Rt. 31 in Washington yesterday.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/2020/02/3-in-1-car-flown-for-treatment-after-head-on-crash-in-warren-county.html

Calico696 Calico696
Feb '20

Bring back the dog show!!!

Those are just terrible. First the guy gets outed for toasting his own house and then the head on looks like a perfect shot which is about as bad as it gets. The homeless folks have family, he was not injured in his accident, that's a blessing. Hopefully, looking the crash and the fact the cabs looked pretty intact ---- the speed was lower or one was stopped and, praying that all will recover. Got to be one of our most dangerous roads in terms of when you get slammed, it's probably a good one. Too fast, too close in many places, and all the entrances everywhere make it more dangerous. I hardly ever cross the yellow anymore --- just turn right is my mantra..

strangerdanger strangerdanger
Feb '20

Same mantra for me. I’d rather make (three) safer right turns, utilizing jug handles and side streets, than a dangerous but faster left turn.

Guilty-Remnant Guilty-Remnant
Feb '20

Article on the Oxford family that lost their home in the fire.

https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/western-newjersey/community-pitches-in-to-help-after-wwii-veteran-and-his/article_3aa1878a-51cf-11ea-83cd-4b93557d39c5.html

Calico696 Calico696
Feb '20

A Warren Hills senior was killed yesterday in an car accident. Condolences to all who knew him.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/in-memory-of-jake-stria

Calico696 Calico696
Feb '20

A link to the article on the crash. So many accidents recently. I don’t know Jake but this is every parent’s nightmare.
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2020/02/teen-flown-to-hospital-after-1-car-warren-county-wreck.html

3wbdwnj 3wbdwnj
Feb '20

Update

N.J. high school senior killed after car slams into tree
An 18-year-old Warren Hills Regional High School senior died after a one-car crash Wednesday evening in Warren County, authorities said. Jake Stria, of Washington Township, was driving north on Franklin Road just after 5:30 p.m. when the car left ...
https://www.nj.com/warren/2020/02/nj-high-school-senior-killed-after-car-slams-into-tree.html

Bug3
Feb '20

Sucks when someone that young dies. RIP Jake.

callitlikeIseeit callitlikeIseeit
Feb '20

Another update. It was ruled a suicide. What a waste of a young life. His poor family.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2020/02/warren-hills-seniors-death-in-warren-county-crash-ruled-a-suicide.html

Calico696 Calico696
Feb '20

This is so sad. My condolences to the family and friends who lost this young man.

Guilty-Remnant Guilty-Remnant
Feb '20

Such a shame; wished he coulda called someone.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Feb '20

Fyi to those who live near the portland columbia bridge


Plan revealed for 5M-square-foot industrial park in Slate Belt. Residents not happy.
A large tract of land in Upper Mount Bethel Township that currently represents 2% of the township’s forest and farmland could soon be the site of an industrial park. On Thursday, representatives from River Pointe Logistics Park presented conceptua...
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2020/02/plan-revealed-for-5m-square-foot-industrial-park-in-slate-belt-residents-not-happy.html

Bug3
Feb '20

Let's see, will they be building that while the State goes ahead with their wasteful spending plan that apparently nobody wanted but the State and whatever contractors are ahem, "involved", in the plan to "screen" the rock slopes on the Rt. 80 curve in the Gap? Yeah, I'd be ready for mayhem if that should be the case...major mayhem!

Phil D. Phil D.
Feb '20

2019 average tax bills for Warren Co.

https://patch.com/new-jersey/hackettstown/state-releases-average-tax-bills-warren-county-towns

Calico696 Calico696
Mar '20

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that Pburg has the lowest taxes because the state pays for most of their school costs. Gotta love the Abbott districts!

FarmerJake FarmerJake
Mar '20

Oxford man charged with sexual assault of a minor two decades after the alleged crimes happened.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/2020/03/warren-county-man-charged-with-sexually-assaulting-minor-20-years-ago.html

Calico696 Calico696
Mar '20

So this happened 27 to 34 years ago... I hope they have actual evidence and not a hearsay case.

Metsman Metsman
Mar '20

I'm pretty sure it's not hearsay... just as I'm pretty sure that you have no idea what "hearsay" actually is.

ianimal ianimal
Mar '20

Why wait 20 years is the better question

Bug3
Mar '20

The victim was a child at the time. It’s very likely that they did not have the emotional or legal support they needed to recognize his actions as crimes and pursue justice. Cases like this are gaining traction years later because we are able to prosecute them far better today than in the 90s when no one believed kids who reported abuse.


ianimal hearsay is word of mouth that has no evidence to back it up. So unless there's a confession or a blue dress pretty hard to prove. The best they could do without that is the circumstantial route which I've never liked because I bet there are a lot of people in prison because of circumstantial evidence that shouldn't be there.

Metsman Metsman
Mar '20

So you think this girl heard from someone that she was raped?


No, hearsay is submitting as evidence something that one was told, not what one experienced directly themselves.

For instance, if Charlie Sheen was put on trial based on Corey Feldman saying that Corey Haim told him that Sheen sodomized him as a 13-year old... that would be hearsay.

If Haim himself were alive to come forward today to make the claim for himself... not hearsay. "He said, he said"... but not hearsay. Like I said, you don't understand the legal principle.

ianimal ianimal
Mar '20

Bug3 - I agree. And I think its ridiculous!

Botheredbyuu2 Botheredbyuu2
Mar '20

First case of coronavirus in Warren County - Mansfield.

https://nj.com/warren/2020/03/warren-county-reports-1st-coronavirus-case.html

luvlife
Mar '20

So far as I read elsewhere, he traveled from elsewhere and went immediately to the hospital. He has been isolating at home and didn't go anywhere else. That's good news for slowing the spread here.

Ser positivo Ser positivo
Mar '20

*Clarification - . . . test results going to CDC for confirmation.

luvlife
Mar '20

As per a credible source of mine, he returned to the USA from Germany.

Calico696 Calico696
Mar '20

Good to hear he was isolated.


Second Coronavirus case in Warren County

www.lehighvalleylive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/lopatcong-man-has-2nd-positive-case-of-coronavirus-in-warren-county.html

positive positive
Mar '20

3rd case Hackettstown

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/2-new-coronavirus-cases-in-warren-county-covid-19-reported-in-phillipsburg-hackettstown.html

maja2 maja2
Mar '20

https://www.nj.com/warren/2020/03/warren-county-up-to-29-coronavirus-cases-new-daily-update-says.html

WARREN County has 29 cases now: 5 in HACKETTSTOWN; 1 in Mansfield Township, NJ.

Hackresident Hackresident
Mar '20

That's roughly .000276..... of the population of Warren County. Looks like H'town is the hot spot. ;-)

Calico696 Calico696
Mar '20

Wawa closed because gas attendant is positive for virus

H-Town Mama H-Town Mama
Mar '20

This link is updated daily by the state.

https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/topics/covid2019_dashboard.shtml

maja2 maja2
Mar '20

Need to be careful joking about our lucky-so-far low rate. After days of one here, one there, it did double in one day. One pump guy at WAWA could possibly infect dozens, takes 2-14 days to know and no one is tracking potential exposures. Given we are quite a ways from a drive-though testing site, and our propensity for denial, it is most certainly one day at a time and no joke.

Not to mention the exodus known as escape from New York. Who knows where they are flooding out to but on Route 80, on Tuesday, nothing by NY plates heading West.

Given our respective Gov's of NY and NJ are quoting, as of yesterday, a peak point 14-21 days out, and possibly 60 days (although that would be a real failure of our process), Warren County is still in the cross-hairs so to speak.

Be careful out there.

strangerdanger strangerdanger
Mar '20

The population of Warren county is a little over 100k or about 1% of the state's population. Just keep that fact in mind.


This being said we are in better shape than all of the counties to the East...


Oh, it’s coming. Not “if” but “when”. All it takes is one person to spread it. One.

Guilty-Remnant Guilty-Remnant
Mar '20

It ain’t coming today thank goodness. One day at a time.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Mar '20

whoever touches our credit cards at the gas stations and elsewhere can put those germs on our cards.

I did read to alcohol-wipe down your credit cards and keys too.

and the people that take our Shop Rite and Weiss cards are touching too, whether it be with rubber gloves or not.

Hackresident Hackresident
Mar '20

Shoprite scans cards. I wipe my CC after I pay for gas.

maja2 maja2
Mar '20

Crack window- pay cash. Keep the change.


First time I did that the gas jockey was adamant about waiting so he could make change. Almost became international incident :-).

With prices dropping, getting harder to estimate how far the 20 goes !

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Mar '20

You don't test, you don't have numbers. Just wait till they start swabbing, the number infected is much higher than anyone thinks.

dodgebaal dodgebaal
Mar '20

For some non-virus news...

Women shot in vehicle in I-78 in Greenwich Township

https://www.nj.com/warren/2020/03/woman-shot-in-vehicle-on-interstate-78-exit-ramp-in-warren-county-police-say.html

honestyseasy honestyseasy
Mar '20

Strange stuff.


Latest update

HACKETTSTOWNPD: Hackettstown COVID-19 Update: 9 confirmed cases and 1 recovered. Click Link For More Information nixle.us/BQTSA

Link has warren County list

Bug3
Mar '20

"Women shot in vehicle in I-78 in Greenwich Township"

Too bad she couldn't legally carry her own firearm to defend herself.

Calico696 Calico696
Mar '20

Bug3: that link isn't for Hackettstown's Covid-19 list. please re-do.

Hackresident Hackresident
Mar '20

Here it is again. .from hackettstown p.d.

http://nixle.us/BQTSA

Bug3
Mar '20

9 cases in Hackettstown, and 1 recovered. What about the other 8 ?

Hackresident Hackresident
Apr '20

Obviously the other 8 are still sick.

Metsman Metsman
Apr '20

Over 100 documented cases in Warren County now... looks like Alpha and Oxford are the last two municipalities without a documented case yet. Be safe everyone...

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/warren-county-surpasses-100-cases-of-covid-19-a-town-by-down-breakdown.html

ianimal ianimal
Apr '20

Lucky us, ianimal. Alpha is surprising since P'burg and Lopat seem to be hot spots.

Calico696 Calico696
Apr '20

Not sure why the county numbers are close and not a match the state numbers for warren. Also, not sure where the "recovers" come from, not sure the state is tracking that yet (or at least showing us).

Since the warren version has no date of issue that I can see, it's got that issue. Also, seems to be missing a column for death of which, as of 4/1 high noon, we had 3 deaths or about 3% which is average at least. But state's 4/1 version states 96 versus warren's 107 of either 4/2 or 4/1. The state updates at about 2pm each day.

There may be some issue with residency in that the state has over 4,500 pending positives supposedly due to residency determination. That's a boatload of cases getting ready to hit the stats. There is also the issue of people coming into the area, fleeing NYC et al and how are they counted --- here or there? Perhaps not that important to Oxford, but Blairstown has a lot of second homes for example.

No matter what the numbers, we are still climbing the curve and, while our numbers are low, frankly, any mistake any of us makes in self-quarantine or distancing could blow these numbers out of the water. Be careful out there, please consider your fellow citizens as we frequent what we frequent …….which is mostly the food places now. God speed.

strangerdanger strangerdanger
Apr '20

Stranger

There are probaby 3 out of ten with corona that show symptoms and get tested....we will never know the real numbers

Bug3
Apr '20

I am sure the numbers are higher. Citizens with mild symptoms are more than likely not being tested. In my opinion the case numbers are underreported.

Leslie Leslie
Apr '20

https://www.facebook.com/hackettstownpd/photos/a.310206102368995/2964518346937744/?type=3&theater

Guys, really? Please, stay home! I'm sure the staff would be most appreicative about not having a heavier workload.

alpha1beta alpha1beta
Apr '20

As long as no one gets out of their respective vehicles and just blows their own horns, where's the harm?

ianimal ianimal
Apr '20

ianimal-

The HPD can't evaluate every gathering to determine which are ok. The gesture is nice but I can see why it would be a potentially bad precedent.

Jim KIng
Apr '20

The harm is there is supposed to be no driving except for essential travel. Not meaning to be a prude, but just not sure the message being sent.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Apr '20

Sounds like a stupid, annoying idea anyway. Car horns and car alarms are obnoxious. Make a donation, it's probably more appreciated and definitely much quieter. ;-)

Calico696 Calico696
Apr '20

Calico696 I totally agree. Very obnoxious to the neighbors, the staff and the patients in the hospital.

Walking Girl Walking Girl
Apr '20

Calico

Agreed, and at 7:30 PM? That's not that late, but I agree that there are much better ways to show your support. Yes, a public "demonstration" is more obvious, but it's the behind the scenes support that are more valuable to them I think (and in the long run).

I do have an idea however that may be acceptable to the hospital administration and HPD. A line of something like the old Burma Shave signs lining the driveways of the hospital, maintaining physical/social spacing for visibility of course and at least 20 feet away from Mountain Ave. that gave messages of support from the community. Those would last more than a day and would be a continual reminder.

Phil D. Phil D.
Apr '20

Making horrible noise outside a hospital shows exactly what? Better to donate to the fund that is sending meals to the medical staff? Really?

4catmom 4catmom
Apr '20

Alpha. must be the diesel fumes from route 78 wrapped around it...


The Rotary donation program or the blue ribbon idea in a previous thread are much better ideas to support the medical staff.


How about an air raid siren?

Iamrite Iamrite
Apr '20

4 recovered

http://nixle.us/BR2FN

Bug3
Apr '20

Helping the frontline is wonderful, but I only have enough to help the families who have nothing.

If I had enough I’d certainly help the frontline without question and many more....

positive positive
Apr '20

Helping anyone is helping; bless you.

We don’t need symbols, we don’t need affirmation, you are taking action and that’s what we need.

Start close to home, do what you can do. Doing counts!

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Apr '20

Thank you SD. You can be a real sweetheart.

positive positive
Apr '20

Meals are the best, always appreciated.


Want to show appreciation for our healthcare and social workers? Stay the eff home! They will appreciate it much more when hospitals are less crowded and more lives can be saved! Sheesh

Curlytoo Curlytoo
Apr '20

That's so true, Curlytoo. I know people even in retail that are so annoyed because people come in stores and just walk around with families. It's not an outing! Stay home. If you need essentials, send ONE family member. It's not a social gathering. That and people that are buying things that are ridiculous and not essential.

Stay safe everyone. Thoughts with all.

DogDayAfternoon
Apr '20

This just popped up on the Warren County Active incidents site

The Warren County Active Incidents Display Dashboard has been disabled until furher notice

Lamppost Lamppost
Apr '20

Wonder if that was in response to the Breathing Difficulty and chest pains and whatnot

Kingcoriander Kingcoriander
Apr '20

It's probably just site maintenance. It happens every now and again. Sometimes it's weeks before it's back online.

Calico696 Calico696
Apr '20

It very well could be. Just meaning to say, given that addresses are listed, they might be trying to avoid witchhunting for difficulty breathing calls.

Kingcoriander Kingcoriander
Apr '20

Well said DogDay I work in a big box store and that is what people are doing just walking around killing time and their kids run around touching everything !

janster janster
Apr '20

Kingcoriander,

I'd be inclined to agree on that

Lamppost Lamppost
Apr '20

OK, this is just me talking, but I am a pretty good forecaster of things, in general so take it with a critical eye that I am just making it all up. And who am I?

Today marks two weeks since the NJ stay-at-home executive order and 6-weeks since NJ started taking actions against C19. The virus has a 2-14 day incubation period.

Makes you wonder why Warren is spiking now, don't it?

Bad luck, lack of distancing, hand washing, and public gatherings? Evil bosses forcing work in close proximity while outlawing hand washing?

Stupidity or disbelief in MSM as a purveyor of paranoia that C19 is a real threat?

It's not that we weren't told it was coming and what it might do. Fortunately, only one of these can't be fixed......and with the happenings in NYC/NE NJ, I pray that we got the message in time.

Hopefully, this is just a blip because since our US mitigation program is more like Italy's than China's, as I have been saying for some time, prayer seems to be our best defense. As NYC/NE NJ continues to rage, Italy provides a timeline for possibilities when the disease will peak and begin to ramp down. However, even when that happens for NYC/NE NJ, and I pray it will be soon, the ramp down lasts as long as the ramp up.....at least. And, sorry to say, the deaths lag the onset of the disease. We will feel a hell of a lot better coming down than going up, but REMEMBER, we can't let down our guard until it's over, really over, for this year.

There are anomalies and a multitude of variables in all of this, each country, each state, each city, is different, but Italy started, in earnest 2/21, 2/22, about 50 cases at that time. The current peak was 3/21, about a month, and it looks like the number of new cases began decreasing, in earnest, I'm calling it 3/26 but that's an interpretation....... On Italy's ramp down, there are set-backs, but generally down. China/SKorea I think followed similar timing, however, they dampened the effect much better than the US and Italy. Matter of fact, we can blame China for starting this whole thing, but frankly, we got most of ours from Europe and our own stupidity.

US start time is harder to pinpoint, but I am picking 3/1 with 75 cases total at that time. Each day right now, for the last four days, is a new peak. I am praying that each yesterday, starting now, will be the last peak. God bless, stay safe, follow the rules, and God speed cuz after it's over -------- gonna party like it's 1999, oh shoot, make that 1977 when we REALLY knew how to party! Break out the plastic sheets, the jello, and I will show you a week-end lock-down to remember!!!

strangerdanger strangerdanger
Apr '20

The counties of Warren, Sussex, Hunterdon and Salem were left out if the first wave of stimulus checks.
https://savejersey.com/2020/04/covid-19-coronavirus-new-jersey-stimulus/

3wbdwnj 3wbdwnj
Apr '20

@3wbdwnj. not surprising. 3 Replublican counties.

whocares whocares
Apr '20

That they represent.

3wbdwnj 3wbdwnj
Apr '20

And the counties are all on the bottom lists with the number of cases and have not been bearing the load from hospitals that are sending patients elsewhere. Just saying.

Mel81 Mel81
Apr '20

which has absolutely nothing to do with the people who live there and are out of work.


And do you think if our cases rise next week, they'll send us money? Think again

maja2 maja2
Apr '20

I live in Sussex, work in Warren and do not have my job now. Our numbers of cases and deaths will rise as will theirs. I just feel the resources need to be sent where they are most needed first. Let us see what happens as more and more goes out instead of jumping on a "they are out to get us" bandwagon. It is getting harder by the day, but no matter where you are from take this virus seriously, take care of you but don't forget about others, and understand they we will get over the hump of this. Now is not the time to throw stones. Now is the time to hold onto hope and do your part to work together so we can be stronger when this is over.

Mel81 Mel81
Apr '20

well said, Mel81

4catmom 4catmom
Apr '20

SD, China massively under-reported their infections and deaths. This messed up all of the models built upon this. The invisible enemy. All of our world-leading military power can't do a lick for something like this. China has already closed all of the wet markets across the entire country, Burt off course black markets are still there and need to be squashed. Also, their consumption of dogs and cats will hopefully go away as it has already been banned in one large city.


Actually the common denominator seems to be mass transit...cities like los angelas have little mass transit. .with way less corona than NYC.. especially when you realize that if the virus started in china and LA is major entry point from China...it should be as bad as NYC but it isn't

Warren and Sussex have far fewer NY commuters than other counties such as Morris and Essex... the ones we do have either drive or take a commuter bus

The counties that have the most cases seem to have many train commuters

Maybe the virus spreading is because of the dirty trains and recirculated air?

Bug3
Apr '20

Most current count :(

https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/topics/covid2019_dashboard.shtml

maja2 maja2
Apr '20

Oxford is the only town in the county with no cases. Cases of the virus that is, there are plenty of cases of beer in Oxford. ;-)

Cheers!

Calico696 Calico696
Apr '20

Bug, the mass transit is a big part of the problem. The people who were saying, "You don't need to wear a mask" were wealthy doctors and politicians who take their shiny new Beemers to work. They honestly had no clue that all of the nurses and other people dealing with the virus every day were the ones riding the trains and subways in the cities.

Only now, when it's too little, too late, are people starting to realize that.

JerseyWolf JerseyWolf
Apr '20

Oxford is easy to explain: (insert joke here, maybe a song.....)

"SD, China massively under-reported their infections and deaths. This messed up all of the models built upon this." I have heard this, but, of course, what you state no one knows is true, much less that there's some sort of dark conspiracy in the counting.
Here's look: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/us/politics/cia-coronavirus-china.html

OK -- go with S. Korea ---- did they lie too?

And why you are at it ---- how much under-reporting in Italy? Some say millions....

Or how about the good ole US of A. Only NYS tests at a level at or above China and S. Korea ---- think we are under reporting --- lies? How about the other states, some of which aren't testing much at all. Crikey, the Spring Breakers were on the FLA beaches in Panama City on 3/20 at 7pm. Where do you think those rocket scientists are going to next? And guess what, if you call your testing center or drive through and say "I have the virus, but it's not really bad," guess what --- no test for you -

Bottom line --- it's all directional, there's lots of variables and anomalies, all countries, counties, states and cities are different.

But the general fact remains ---- whether you mitigate, flatten or do nothing --- it's about a month to the peak. And we won't know too much more until well after the fact when it can really be analyzed to standardize the statistics. Since we are already at a month, I am not going to say we will beat that...... The question is, given our actions, how much behind it will we be?

So ding China all you want --- we still outpace them on cases and numbers of death and, last I checked, they have more people....I would hazard the guess that after all the lies are accounted for, we will still be The Queen of the Pigs, not the award I was hoping for. NYC is looking third-world, NE NJ is getting very close to that. The Asian plans produced a certain result, a different result, instead we have gone another route.

I still believe NY, being our bellwether, will top out any day now ---- but today was not the day. And it will still be a long way down the other side of the curve with deaths mounting as we return to what will be our new normal. As I drive on my essential business today, I see many groups of people enjoying the mild temps and standing in close proximity. It's as if some folks denial is actually turning into defiance, a badge of manliness (saw no women being this stupid). Every case tracks to contacts forwards and backwards; it's 2-14 days once incubation starts. Our clock continues to click as we continue to do the wrong things, the wrong way, expecting different results. Sigh.

strangerdanger strangerdanger
Apr '20

No reported cases Calico. Mild cases never get reported as a person like this will never meet the requirements to get tested.


Stranger

For most people its mild...not worth going to a Doctor and report...just a regular cold...for high risk people is a different issue

Bug3
Apr '20

NYC is Debozo's fault. You'd think when he saw other spots shutting down he'd have done so as well. Instead he waited a week or so later. California has managed to prevent their metro areas from getting out of control. NY and NJ will be the last two states to open back up....

Metsman Metsman
Apr '20

Did any of the positive cases (11) in Hackettstown and Mansfield pass away from the coronavirus?

Hackresident Hackresident
Apr '20

Re: stimulus checks (which once again, I don't get....) while it’s easy to pull the “it’s political” lever, saying that all of these counties are Republican, counties of Cape May, Monmouth, Morris, and Ocean are Republican too and Gloucester is mixed; they got em.

In terms of C19 cases, Salem is our lowest count, but before Hunterdon/Warren comes Cumberland, Cape May, Atlantic with lower case numbers and one of these being Republican. And then the mixed county of Gloucester is tween Hunterdon/Warren and Sussex….

So, neither purely party nor case count seem to be the absolute determining factor, nor can $$$ be the answer since Hunterdon is still numero 3 the richest county on the list for ALL of the US counties; Sussex is number 7 in NJ but Warren rates top of bottom half and Salem is bottom of the barrel.

I realize they had to delay some, most states do I think but it just does not make sense on any vector as to the choice. But can't really say it's just political --- there was a liberal county and a really rich one in the mix too.

strangerdanger strangerdanger
Apr '20

The only statistic I could find was for Warren County.

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/04/nj-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-to-646-with-29895-total-cases-113-new-deaths-and-4372-cases-confirmed.html

Hopeful Hopeful
Apr '20

SD Morris is a mixed bag. It's not strictly Republican.

Metsman Metsman
Apr '20

I agree CA was very proactive and has some advantages given high tech industry, a greater spread of the population, etc. DRs there also said screw the Fed, we’ll build our own test centers since depending on the Fed seems a crapshoot in this one.

But why was this left to states and mayors to begin with and why were NY’s pleas for Federal help not answered? I mean if you can’t get the test kits, if you’re being told it’s low risk, what do you expect to happen in the most densely populated area in the United States?

Morris? Not according to last Presidential, Gubernatorial, and Senate races.....

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Apr '20

Big difference between LA and NY is transit system and way of commuting. NY depends on mass transit which basically was ground zero for spread. LA does not, they drive and they drive alone. Plus they acted earlier. Also why you see the train commuter county’s in NJ with high rates as well.

CraftBeerBob CraftBeerBob
Apr '20

Political stance shouldn’t matter, how many corona virus cases per county shouldn’t matter.

What matters is that many people are out of work and many of them have zero income coming in.

All Americans are in need.

This is a disgrace

positive positive
Apr '20

I cannot confirm the story about 4 counties with delayed stimulus checks or what said delay might be.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
Apr '20

This isn’t about the stimulus checks. This is about aid to the counties themselves.

Iamrite Iamrite
Apr '20

You are right and Iamwrong... Jumped to the stimulus checks under WIFM I guess which is pretty funny since I will be immune to checking stimulus..... So, confirmed by NJ.com.

Some of the counties getting aid, really are getting a pittance, so one might count more than four. CapeMay got under $170K, under $1M = Somerset, Gloucester, Cumberland, and Burlington. Big winners = Bergen ($+8M+), Essex ($13M+), and Hudson ($9M+).

This is the first wave, more to follow, I did not do the math to see how much is yet to come: https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/trump-just-signed-2t-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-heres-what-nj-will-get.html

Stimulus checks were really not included in the first link. I saw "residents," and knee-jerked my response. I am sorry.

strangerdanger strangerdanger
Apr '20

Yea I was going to say how does NJ have the power to delay stimulus checks coming directly from the Feds to our checking accounts.

Metsman Metsman
Apr '20

Warren cty covid testing

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/coronavirus-drive-thru-testing-coming-to-warren-county-where-when-and-how-to-schedule.html

maja2 maja2
Apr '20

Good.

Thank you for sharing.


Thank you for sharing that article. I believe that it is misleading, hence your concerns.



Here is a piece of an email issued by our Congressman, Tom Malinowski, that directly addresses the matter. If you have further questions, his office could provide more information than WE can since this is about Federal (not State) legislation.



“All the main programs we created in the stimulus bill — the forgivable loans for small businesses, the $1,200 grants to individuals, the extra $600 in unemployment benefits, the aid to hospitals, the grants to police and fire departments — all of it is equally available to people in all NJ counties, and folks in Warren and Hunterdon are already beginning to benefit.

The story on NJ.com was not about the stimulus bill as a whole. It only referred to a couple of very small programs — the community development block grant and the emergency solutions grant, to which we added some funding in the bill. These grants mostly support housing programs and help for the homeless. By law, the federal government can only give them to cities with a population over 50,000 and to urban counties. So Warren and Hunterdon County have never gotten grants directly from the federal government under that program. They can get money passed through the state of New Jersey, which we will push for.

But again, this is a tiny part of the CARES act — less than 1/2 of 1% of the money we approved. The relief that the vast majority of us are looking for is going everywhere, including to our rural counties.”

Hope this helps.





Best regards,



Debbie



Deborah A. Pasquarelli

Legislative Aide

Office of Assemblyman John DiMaio

23rd Legislative District

New Jersey General Assembly



208 Mountain Avenue, Suite 3

Hackettstown, NJ 07840

positive positive
Apr '20

State Parks shutting down 8pm today.


Numbers continue to increase locally. Depressing!

https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/topics/covid2019_dashboard.shtml

maja2 maja2
Apr '20

if you go further up this thread, or the Hackettstown News thread, you will see by the Hackettstown Police Dept. how many in Hackettstown and Mansfield have the Coronavirus now.

Hackresident Hackresident
Apr '20

https://www.nj.com/hunterdon/2020/04/blaze-destroys-bagel-shop-and-deli.html

maja2 maja2
Apr '20

maja2, arson investigators are going to be busy...


iJay, might be so, but I truly hope not. Firefighters' lives are always at risk, accidental fire or arson.

maja2 maja2
Apr '20

Exactly, maja.

Calico696 Calico696
Apr '20

Arson doesn't make sense. The property owner has sold it to Quick Chek who is going to build a convenience store/gas station on that property and part of the parcel just east along Frontage Road. As if that interchange needed more traffic... now the eastbound ramp can battle the westbound ramp to see who can develop the longest queue...

ianimal ianimal
Apr '20

Think about it, not arson apparently, corporations are taking over the mom and pop businesses just like what happened in farming.


I would bet all bets are off on corporate build outs at this point in time and will be for some time.

CraftBeerBob CraftBeerBob
Apr '20

That’s Hunterdon county news.... not Warren.

Eperot Eperot
Apr '20

Warren County website is getting pretty slick; obviously someone knows charts and website magic. The main website, updated daily, shows a thumbnail of our current status dead center.

http://www.co.warren.nj.us/

But go to the bottom of the C19 list and there's a link for: Click here for Warren County COVID-19 Summary Statistics and Graphs or this WC Health Department Page. Very slick and useful dashboard of data:

http://www.co.warren.nj.us/Healthdept/includings/graphs.pdf

We gots charts, maps, long term care facility (ltcf) stats, history, basically what they will ask you if you catch it, deaths (reg/ltcf) and some pretty useless summary statistics (like we need to know median/mean....ranges -- now you'd be talkin)….although you got to feel distressed about the 9 month old who contracted it, my heart goes out to this family.

Great job WC government and health department type peoples --- good work! thanks

strangerdanger strangerdanger
Apr '20

Thanks for that link and useful information SD.

Hopeful Hopeful
Apr '20

Why is Warren the only county that doesn't report deaths by town?

maja2 maja2
Apr '20

"Deaths by town" may be confusing. Do you report the town where they were officially pronounced dead, or the town in which they lived? If it's the former, then towns with hospitals and nursing homes might show high numbers, even though the infection among town residents is low. Also, due to the makeup of Warren County, "towns" can be confusing. For example, many residents of Mansfield Township have a Hackettstown mailing address, even though they don't actually live in town.

JerseyWolf JerseyWolf
Apr '20

JerseyWolf - They already apply those rules to the number of cases and ones recovered. They could do the same with the ones who died. This is the County Board of Health reporting. They aren't concerned with or confused by mailing addresses. Those are towns of residence, including the difference between Washington Borough and Washington Township (Warren Co) is factored into the statistics. The cases I know are correctly in Independence and Mansfield even though they are Hackettstown mailing addresses. And the recent death at Heath Village doesn't show as an increase in Warren Co. So it all looks to be by residency, not mailing address.


Sketch of suspect released.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2020/04/sketch-released-reward-offered-in-shooting-off-i-78-in-warren-county.html

Calico696 Calico696
Apr '20

It's Doug Pederson... where's my $$$?

ianimal ianimal
Apr '20

I wasn't sure whether to post this in news of the weird or here. Only in Warren County. LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x-n7FHcSTg

Calico696 Calico696
May '20

Calico696- “Is the attacker still on scene?” Hahaha :-) :-)
Funniest thing I’ve ever heard.
Must have been scary for that guy though.

LivingLifeLovingLife LivingLifeLovingLife
May '20

LOL. That was a very funny call. They actually kept it together fairly well. A few laughs when reporting the "perpetrator left the scene". Funny stuff.


Warren county, the Ozarks of NJ, but with high taxes.

dodgebaal dodgebaal
May '20

I thought it was funny when the one cop asked if he needed backup. This reminds me of a story from a year ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRnkB9wtKEk


"The perpetrator fled the scene" this was hysterical! I hope the victim is ok though BUT this was a very funny communications call.

Walking Girl Walking Girl
May '20

When I heard they needed a description of the perp I darn near fell off my chair. lol

sandblaster sandblaster
May '20

Might be best post ever. Very professional, hats off.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
May '20

The “actor” fled to it’s nest! Literally have tears in my eyes. I hope the man is okay but gotta be thankful for some comic relief these days.


"Height, six inches, grey, long bushy tail, last seen carrying a discarded macadamia can. Suspected address - second oak tree from the right. Armed and considered totally dangerous."


If ever there was a call for K-9 to respond.

Courtney1 Courtney1
May '20

Join the rally against the warehouse development!!

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/2020/06/jaindls-26m-square-foot-warehouse-plan-still-unwelcome-residents-plan-to-say-at-rally.html

2 cents
Jun '20

Maybe new supermarket coming to White Twp, Rt 46:
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/2020/07/could-a-new-supermarket-be-coming-to-route-46-in-warren-county-developer-says-that-would-be-ideal.html?outputType=amp

OnTheEdge OnTheEdge
Jul '20

Another pedo.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2020/07/phillipsburg-man-charged-with-sexual-assaults-on-child.html

Calico696 Calico696
Jul '20

Article on Rt. 46 accident yesterday.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/2020/07/driver-airlifted-after-suv-bursts-into-flames-in-warren-county-crash.html

Calico696 Calico696
Jul '20

Heard the car was loaded with fireworks.

Timmy
Jul '20

Word on the street is that a new brewery is going to be opening in downtown Washington. Buttzville Brewing Co. Website still under construction.

http://buttzvillebrewing.com

Calico696 Calico696
July 29th

NICE!!!!


That's certainly an optimistic endeavor at this point in time...

ianimal ianimal
July 29th

Glad to hear this, its been a long time since we had "coming soon" to look for!


Better be sure to install a drive-thru window...


iJay - The location is in the middle of a block as I understand it. So don't think they can swing a drive-thru. LOL

Calico696 Calico696
July 29th

Great name.......

Hopefully they can move from their back yard, using Manskirt components to brew, to Main Street and that they don't need a loan :>( to do so. Not holding my breadth on this one. Best luck guys!

strangerdanger strangerdanger
July 30th

After the dust settles on this saga which looks like 2022, should be cool to have more and more breweries in NW NJ, along with more vineyards if they can get the quality down which is not easy.


In Phillipsburg https://www.nj.com/warren/2020/08/phillipsburg-womans-prescription-fraud-ring-bilked-insurance-taxpayers-out-of-88m.html

OnTheEdge OnTheEdge
August 2nd

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2020/08/1-dead-3-seriously-injured-in-2-vehicle-crash-in-warren-county.html


Wow, that’s a terrible one. Rt 46 getting rough out there.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
August 10th

Very scary and sad. Thoughts to the family and friends of these individuals.

Calico696 Calico696
August 10th

House fire in Washington. I think facebook mentioned a missing cat also.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/2020/08/1-resident-2-firefighters-hurt-in-afternoon-house-fire-photos.html


Impersonating an officer.

https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/warren-hunterdon/police-fire/recognize-him-man-imitating-police-officer-stops-boy-walking-in-warren-county-authorities-say/792966

Calico696 Calico696
August 22nd

Gas tax is increasing by 9.3 cents per gallon on Oct 1. It's the result of a formula in the 2016 gas tax law, designed to maintain revenue for roads.


https://www.nj.com/politics/2020/08/nj-gas-tax-to-rise-93-cents-a-gallon-on-oct-1.html


What use to be the lowest gas tax in the Country will now be the 4th highest.


NJ gas tax is volume sensitive as set during the Christie reign. Want it lower, use more :-). It’s automatic updates. Yearly I think.

While tax is interesting; it’s the bottom line that counts and NJ is middle of the pack and cheaper than PA, NY, MD, and CT.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
August 29th

Doesn't the gas come through our ports and hence, travels less to its final destination? It should be cheaper!

Mynameis
August 29th

And they pump it for you.....in other states IF they pump it you pay more for the convenience.

Not In NJ Anymore Not In NJ Anymore
August 29th

That’s yesterday’s info.

US is top crude producer in the world. NJ is very far away from many states for that.

Of our imports, Canada is about 50%, NJ is a good ways away from that and farther than many states.

So, may still be true, but probably less so at best.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
August 29th

Rock fencing along I-80?
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/2020/09/rock-fencing-along-i-80-straighten-the-highway-officials-and-coalition-prefer.html?outputType=amp

OnTheEdge OnTheEdge
September 6th

I think the journalist was enjoying the Island Dragway races and cars so much, he forgot to photograph the subject of the article,i.e., the large covid crowds :)

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/09/nj-drag-strip-cited-for-covid-19-violations-after-cops-find-at-least-1000-spectators-at-races-state-says.html


Sounds like a "Karen" was at Island Dragway. How unnecessary.


https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/09/nj-drag-strip-cited-for-covid-19-violations-after-cops-find-at-least-1000-spectators-at-races-state-says.html


Eyewitness reports that cops at Island Dragway didn't do anything about the size of the crowd...some old biddy newspaper reporter had to ruin all the fun


I'm so sick of Karens.


They do this and increase the crowding at DMV by limiting the number of facilities that can issue driver's licenses in the middle of a pandemic with no set aside times for seniors or disabled , the most vulnerable .The state bureaucrats need to fine themselves !


"The state bureaucrats need to fine themselves."

The state bureaucrats should be in prison.


Motorcyclist killed in White Twp:
https://www.nj.com/warren/2020/10/motorcycle-rider-dies-after-crash-with-suv-in-warren-county-police-say.html

OnTheEdge OnTheEdge
1 week ago

An article on the Van Nest Gap Tunnel in Oxford.

http://www.insidewarren.com/inside-oxfords-hidden-tunnel

Calico696 Calico696
1 week ago

Great article Calico. Thanks for sharing.


Warren County high school rankings.

https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/warren-hunterdon/lifestyle/new-rankings-website-runs-down-top-public-high-schools-in-warren-county/796070/

Calico696 Calico696
1 week ago

Glad to see Hackettstown made the top 5...I was worried they might come in 6th or even lower


And remember, that's number 4, a solid B, in a county that is part of the BEST PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THE US. Numero 1. The Big Kahuna. Year over year either one or two in rankings, and number 4 in spending per student. Think about that next time you grouse about property taxes, teachers, and the school board. We pay number 4, we get number 1!! All things in perspective.

strangerdanger strangerdanger
1 week ago

There are only 5 high schools in the county, right?

3wbdwnj 3wbdwnj
1 week ago

Exactly my point


3wb - There are six if you include Tech in Washington.

Calico696 Calico696
1 week ago

Yes cal, I didn’t include tech since kids have to apply to go. It’s not your typical high school, however it a shame it wasn’t included in the article. It’s a great school.

3wbdwnj 3wbdwnj
1 week ago

3wb - It was. When you click on the hyperlink after #5 it includes Tech, which came in #6 with a B-.

Calico696 Calico696
1 week ago

In you have a B in the A rated state, what does that mean?

Ps: we’re about 50% range amongst the 400+ NJ HS.

Strangerdanger Strangerdanger
1 week ago

Calico, yes that’s what I meant, that they were omitted from the original article and that you had to click thru to see warren tech included in the list. They should have just put them in the article. No biggie.

3wbdwnj 3wbdwnj
1 week ago

Isn't warren tech just a votech?


That tunnel looks cool- but the page says it is privately owned.

I'd love to metal detect around it, but I don't trespass.


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