Jussie Smollett: what really happened?

What are our thoughts on this ? We had our own type of hoax kidnapping last year in hackettstown. Did it really happen? How plausible is the story?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pagesix.com/2019/02/11/jussie-smollett-finally-turns-phone-records-over-to-cops/amp/

Electric Bear Electric Bear
1 week ago

Nothing. it is a hoax.

He was probably late getting home to his boyfriend so he had to come up with a good story.

Reggie Voter Reggie Voter
1 week ago

More smear Trump and race bait society fake news. He was probably on a meth binge in some gay sex dungeon.


Complete BS. He get's attacked with bleach and is on video calmly walking into his apartment building with his cell phone in one hand, his Subway sandwich in the other? And, the "noose" was not on his neck until AFTER he took off his coat, hat and gloves, ate his sandwich and called police???

What a crock of $hit.


Common for Celebrities to pump publicized something, to increase their Sales or Popularity, particularly right before a new Song or Show being released:



... According to TMZ, Jussie filmed a scene for the upcoming fifth season of the programme on Monday, ...

... Meanwhile, "Empire" executive producers Brett Mahoney and Danny Strong also spoke about the incident as they attended Fox's Television Critics Association winter press tour on Wednesday, and told reporters there's a chance the attack may inspire a plot line in the series.

"I think a story like this could happen in Empire, just because it is such a timely story," Brett said. "But not as a result of this." ...


https://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00132418.html


Now everyone has to watch that show; even more so, the episode about that event.

ftcfda@aol.com ftcfda@aol.com
1 week ago

Follow the money.

dodgebaal dodgebaal
1 week ago

This seems awfully coincidental. No? Couldn’t be any coordination going on here.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2719869002

Electric Bear Electric Bear
1 week ago

Nothing happened other than a known Trump hater and race baiter looking for a way to stir up sh!t.

Most likely a Grinder meet up gone wrong.


Wow! How sinical!

Botheredbyuu2 Botheredbyuu2
1 week ago

Cynical, no. Accurate, yes.


Bbu2...
it's your typical Warren county Republican racist bile. I knew when i clicked on this tab what i would see and as usual they don't disappoint. This post will probably be taken down because the mods are of the same ilk but that's just my opinion.


Samiam I think it’s pretty racist of you to assume this discussion has any racist overtones undertones dog whistles or outright ‘racist bile’. Aren’t you interested in catching these alleged perpetrators ? Or are you too racist to have that discussion?

Electric Bear Electric Bear
7 days ago

Samiam, show us the proof. Smollett is the modern day Tawana Brawley.


“it's your typical Warren county Republican racist bile.“

Typical? How so?

Consigliere
7 days ago

"He was probably late getting home to his boyfriend so he had to come up with a good story."

"He was probably on a meth binge in some gay sex dungeon."

"Nothing happened other than a known Trump hater and race baiter looking for a way to stir up sh!t. Most likely a Grinder meet up gone wrong."

Pretty much on par with all bigoted things I've come to expect from this forum. And somehow you guys wonder why everyone thinks Trump supporters are terrible people...

Reasonable Reasonable
7 days ago

This thread is disgraceful.

JrzyGirl88 JrzyGirl88
7 days ago

Please explain how those comments are bigoted. They might be misguided or incorrect ultimately but you’re being way too sensitive here. This is why nobody can have a conversation anymore. People get triggered over next to nothing. What do you think happened with Jussie smollet? Why not contribute to the dicsuttion rather than condemning ? You’re the bigoted one.

Electric Bear Electric Bear
7 days ago

I'm sure you have it all saved to a screenshot, right, " reasonable? LOL


Agreed, JrzyGirl88. This may be the most disgraceful thing I've ever seen on this forum, worse than I expected 100x. I am embarrassed to know these people are my neighbors - but very glad to see a few reasonable (Pardon the pun) people like you and Reasonable.

The owner of this forum should be ashamed as themselves for allowing this to continue to exist and to give these vile creatures an anonymous place to spout their bigotry and racism.

This forum should be shut down, wiped from the web, so no one by happenstance can stumble onto the wretched hive of scum and villainy on par or worse than 4chan and InfoWars.

Go crawl back to the dark web, until your terminal case of Fox rot finishes you off, leaving the world a better place in your absence.

You're absolutely sickening

alpha1beta alpha1beta
7 days ago

Instead of crying racism from your mom's basement, why don't you do a little research and see how this Smollett case has been shown to be disbelieved and unfounded on all accounts.

Typical libs, if it "offends" you it should be erased! Freedom of speech, snowflakes, FREEDOM OF SPEECH!


Thank You Alpha - could not agree more … this forum brings out some of the best in us but it also brings out the worst … Moderator … Please delete this string !!!

LibertyThinker LibertyThinker
7 days ago

People disagree with you and rather than have a discussion, you want to call for their death and delete any trace of the discussion ? Stalin and Mao would be so proud of you guys.

Electric Bear Electric Bear
7 days ago

What happens when the Chicago PD charges him with making a false report?

consigliere
7 days ago

“it's your typical Warren county Republican racist bile.“

Hmm. Interesting. Even today with the "Blackface Scandal" in Virginia and going back to the days of certain Southern Governors standing in the doorway to prevent black children from attending white schools. Who could forget Bull Conner? You remember him..."Bull Connor directed the use of fire hoses and police attack dogs against civil rights activists; child protestors were also subject to these attacks." Let's not forget the Grand Wizard, Senator Robert Byrd. What did these folks any many others (The list is extensive, these are just a few examples) have in common? Oh, that's right they were all prominent Democrats. What a legacy? Going all the way back to the 1924 Democratic National Convention that was referred to as the "Clan Bake" in which the KKK marched in their white sheets down one of the avenues in NYC.

I guess Ann Coulter is right. If you want to know what the libs are up to, stop and listen to what they are accusing Republicans of. That's what they are up to!

Quack, Quack
7 days ago

bigoted? how about right on the money?

Let's see if you take that back once it is confirmed that he perpetrated a hate hoax.

Reggie Voter Reggie Voter
7 days ago

Don’t worry.......he’ll keep his job and career if it’s found to be a hoax. Only people of certain skin color get fired for such things.

Philliesman Philliesman
7 days ago

This interview will be airing tomorrow. Are we too triggered to discuss the interview ? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6700077/Jussie-Smollett-cries-gives-interview-homophobic-racist-attack.html

Electric Bear Electric Bear
7 days ago

Wow, just wow philliesman.


Can someone please summarize what he is saying for me? Maybe it’s too high brow abstract and philosophical for me? https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1095786497003925520?s=21

Electric Bear Electric Bear
6 days ago

This is too funny not to share. https://youtu.be/utFmwotHjwg

Electric Bear Electric Bear
6 days ago

Electric Bear. Thanks for sharing that. It's hysterical and sadly true! LOL!!!

Quack, Quack
6 days ago

Thanks for proving my racist point electric bear. As if your words weren't enough.. You really didn't have to go through so much trouble though. Do your neighbors know your secret? Or just those lucky enough to read the bile you post online?


Samiam do you have anything of substance to contribute or just here to stomp your racist feet and pout?

Electric Bear Electric Bear
6 days ago

Maybe all involved are from the white house, “truth isn’t the truth.”

Roywhite Roywhite
6 days ago

Somebody should ask Dr Ford about what ‘her truth’ about the incident is.

Electric Bear Electric Bear
6 days ago

Smollett is a pathological liar. Anyone with an ounce of sense can see it. I just hope he gets charged for wasting valuable police time. How many murders are committed in Chicago every weekend?


well the fact that he stated someone told him Chicago is "MAGA country" is indicative of that lol

it was 25 degrees with a wind chill of -50 and two two guys were waiting for Smollett and JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE bleach and a noose? After he supposedly received this beating, he went home past the doorman in his building - ate his subway sandwich (how did he manage to keep that) then called the police 45 minutes later..

I am calling shenanigans.


"then called the police 45 minutes later"

All of the above while still wearing the noose (it was supposedly still around his neck when the police arrived).

Mark Mc. Mark Mc.
6 days ago

Under his coat


Household bleach freezes at 18def F. It was at least -20degF that night. Was this magic bleach?! (Channeling my best my cousin vinny)

Electric Bear Electric Bear
6 days ago

Why are people racist for asking questions?
Part of me hopes this isn’t a hoax because I
don’t want to believe there are people crazy enough to fabricate a race-based claim like this. More of me hopes it IS a hoax because I’d hate to think something like that can happen. Alabama or Mississippi? Possible but I’d still question it. Chicago?? MAGA country? Yeah, I don’t know about that....

What really doesn’t make sense is his claim that the alleged attackers supposedly KNEW who he was as they are purported to have said “aren’t you that F—g N— from empire?” So they were MAGA hat wearing white supremasists who targeted Jussie because they are...fans of the show?

Also, the craziest thing a white person could do would be accost a random black IN CHICAGO. Check the murder rate stats in that city. For a gun-free city it seems like everyone must be carrying for that many people to die of gun violence.

Anyway, please take “racist” out of the equation when people question this story. The whole reason I know about this is because I frequently watch the Star Report where Star (formerly of the Star and Bucwild Show on power 105.1 and later Hot 97), who is a black man, questioned this story from the beginning. Also, EVERY CALLER that called in (90% are black—-I know because Star asks them) thought the story was BS. The black community (at least the dozens of black people who called into the show) HATES when these false claims are made because it overshadows the rare instances where REAL racism actually does occur.

Consigliere
6 days ago

+1 alpha1beta

Lots of true colors coming out in here.It's gross.

Smilingbecs Smilingbecs
6 days ago

Consigliere - your last paragraph- brilliant! Exactly right. When someone makes false claims it diminishes the true acts be it racist attacks, sexual assault. That's why this is so heinous. Common sense makes this story unbelievable, not racism.


“Like People who have different opinions than me are like um so gross.”

Electric Bear Electric Bear
6 days ago

I find this whole thing shocking and appalling...

There are really people in this world with nothing better to do than watch Empire?!? How depressing...

ianimal ianimal
6 days ago

This thread is very humorous. If you employ logic, no one has said anything that could even be mildly construed as racist or even offensive. Yet, the following adjectives are being burped up be the usual snowflakes; "Republican Bile, Disgraceful, Bigotry, Racism (Multiple Times), Scum and Villany".

Thank you! This has given me some real insight into the mental state of the typical snowflake. They read things that have not been written. They hear things that have not been said. And see things that don't exist. They live by the code, "If I feel it, it must be true! And don't confuse me with the facts you racist!"

Quack, Quack
6 days ago

I posted it before but I guess I'll have to post it again if you're not going to read my post above.

"He was probably late getting home to his boyfriend so he had to come up with a good story."

"He was probably on a meth binge in some gay sex dungeon."

"Nothing happened other than a known Trump hater and race baiter looking for a way to stir up sh!t. Most likely a Grinder meet up gone wrong."

All of these comments are trying to insinuate some sort of flaw in the person associated with his sexual orientation. I mean you can't possibly look at those statement and think that they are neutral. There is very clearly an attempt to put a negative connotation on him being gay.

Reasonable Reasonable
6 days ago

Reasonable, why does it insuiniate a flaw? There’s nothing wrong with being homosexual. It’s not 1956. You’re bigoted for assuming that was someone’s intention.

Next.

Electric Bear Electric Bear
6 days ago

Speaking for myself, this is only after Smollett has been unwilling and unable to show any proof. Sorry to burst your tattle tale bubble "reasonable".


Sounds to me like they were all just commenting based on their past personal experiences...

ianimal ianimal
6 days ago

this jussie smollett seems to be an actual race-baiter, and way too many libs have taken the bait, hook , line, and sinker. sad, very sad.

GreyHawk GreyHawk
6 days ago

Time for the apologies to start rolling in!

alpha1beta, you first!

Reggie Voter Reggie Voter
5 days ago

He lied. He hired people to stage a racist attack. So sad. Many people were truly upset by this.

Https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/jussie-smollett-lied-hate-hoaxer-exposed-faked-attackers-were-black-men-from-nigeria-not-white-maga-supporters/


Yikes, this thread is problematic and another shining example of why I sometimes avoid this forum.

I think it's perfectly fine to question whether or not this was a hoax, have a civil discussion on reasons why he may have lied, and examine the facts for what they are.

But the comments about a "meth binge in a gay sex dungeon" and "grindr hook up gone wrong" and other similar comments are the reason why people here are getting upset - not the fact that the validity of his story is being question. Those comments are incendiary as there are tones of homophobia.

I guess my point is... why did it have to turn to that? Why couldn't we discuss the facts without throwing out inappropriate comments on his sexuality?

This thread should be removed and it is shameful. Try again next time - and maybe, try acting like adults.

TieDyeMindsEye TieDyeMindsEye
5 days ago

No it shouldn't. You're shameful. Take your censorship wishes somewhere else.

Reggie Voter Reggie Voter
5 days ago

Oh the tones of homophobia...this forum...it's all just too much...I need to head to my safe space with my service animal.


It is bizarre to me that you take this to a place of censorship and free speech. Do you have the right to say whatever you want? Yup. Our government gives us this right so that we don't, say, end up in jail for speaking our minds. It is a simple protection to prevent tyrannical rule and unjust punishment. However, this isn't about free speech... it's really about ethics.

Just because you are free to say whatever you want doesn't make it right, and it's difficult for me to understand how somewhere down the line you began equating respect, civility, and compassion with censorship, over-sensitivity, and the overused diatribe of safe places and snowflakes.

Think of it like this... I am free to hate my neighbor. I'm free to say whatever I want about him. I hate the way he looks, I hate his politics, I hate how he keeps his home. But will I approach him and berate him? Would I publicly and openly bash him? Nope. Because at the end of the day, despite our differences, I respect him as a human being and I respect myself enough to not make myself look like a fool saying such things. It would make me look uneducated, unhinged, and rude.

Take the higher road... keep it to yourself... it's weak humor, it's effortless, it's dumb, and it's antiquated. I can't wait until the baby boomer generation shuts up forever.

TieDyeMindsEye TieDyeMindsEye
5 days ago

Tiedyemindseye
What a rotten, hateful thing to say!
Death to boomers is good?

Your parents are probably Boomers. And your aunts and uncles, and possibly your grandparents. So if people of a certain era disagree with YOU, you want them dead?!
Nice.
You sound like a Pompous ass.

I hope I have raised enough caring and intelligent children to counteract your angry essence.


Im a millenial there TieDye......definitely not down with the progressive AOC type ideaologies....neither are plenty of others in our age group so speak for yourself ya sensitive sally. And if someone chooses to be a homophobe...that's their right!! It's none of your business so you should take your own advice and mind your own.

Snowpocalypse Snowpocalypse
5 days ago

You some very fine people here...on both sides.
Lol

Roywhite Roywhite
5 days ago

That hate crime hoaxer made his orientation and race the key parts of his so-called attack. Most reasonable people knew almost immediately that it was a phony story.

He deserves all of the derision that he's received on those accounts.

Reggie Voter Reggie Voter
5 days ago

Hey TieDyeMindsEye,

You said, "Our government gives us this right so that we don't, say, end up in jail for speaking our minds."

WRONG!!!! Pablum puking libs might believe that, but it is still wrong! The government gives us nothing!

We are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights.

Quack, Quack
5 days ago

http://newjersey.news12.com/story/39970553/chicago-media-reports-reported-attack-on-actor-jussie-smollett-was-staged?fbclid=IwAR3--yxv6vbB2Ih4754xGjZ3HAlqVvGBLj2schWjPlkjQW0tHbAt9jj6XoE

JeffersonRepub JeffersonRepub
5 days ago

Re: Jussie Smollett: what really happened?

"That hate crime hoaxer made his orientation and race the key parts of his so-called attack."

Yep... if this is proven to be false then HE "weaponized" his race and sexual orientation to try to stick it to the white Trump supporters. Tough s**t if we "fire back" at him.

The two "persons of interest" that got arrested were from Nigeria... hardly Trump country.

Smollett provided a redacted PDF copy of his call records (that he said would prove his case)... the police already had the FULL call record from the phone company, so it was a simple matter of saying "hey, why did he black out THIS number? Wonder who that is..." and that's partly how they identified the other people allegedly involved.

Not the smartest cookie.

Mark Mc. Mark Mc.
5 days ago

I have an inside source at Chicago PD. there is a lot of pressure from the mayor on the handling of the case. They were not happy about the leak last night. More notes to come.

Waiting room Waiting room
5 days ago

Re: Jussie Smollett: what really happened?

Look at these white supremacists. They need to be stopped. Ugh. Such bile.

Waiting room Waiting room
5 days ago

Anyone with more than three brain cells knew this story was a hoax. I’m not racist. Just smarter than you :)

Consigliere
5 days ago

typical - tried in the court of hackettstown forum - convicted - sentenced - typical-- without witnesses, lawyers, or anything else except ifs and maybes and rumors and ............and..........just smh

4catmom 4catmom
5 days ago

4catmom, are you reading the articles that have come out in the past 15 hours? It WAS a hoax. Police raided the home of two NIGERIAN actors who actually were extras on Empire. Smollet hired them to commit this horrible, race-baiting hoax.

To OP, good timing.

Consigliere
5 days ago

Wow - Thanks Consigliere!

I was slow on checking in...and happy to find my initial post (kinda knew it was a stunt) but off thinking it was for Publicity (to boost sales/or $$$), while now new news is pointing he did it to "Save his Job" ?!?

Is being Assaulted a new EEOC Workplace Discrimination to prevent someone being cut/laid-off/fired?!?!??!?!?? --

-- Hey, a little Sympathy can't not work... [sometimes a little, sometimes a lot, other times, Oh, Get Real! or get busted ...lol]


https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/15/suspects-arrested-in-jussie-smollett-case/


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6707153/Cops-raid-Empire-extras-home-amid-rumored-investigation-claims-Jussie-Smollett-staged-attack.html

ftcfda@aol.com ftcfda@aol.com
5 days ago

which reports are you reading? this is current: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-jussie-smollett-persons-of-interest-20190215-story.html

4catmom 4catmom
5 days ago

https://abc7chicago.com/sources-smollett-staged-attack-with-help-of-others-allegedly-being-written-off-empire/5138497/


~It really DOESN'T MATTER *which reports you are reading* ....as they ALL lead to the fact it WAS staged -- -- for the reason which only BENEFITs either the 2 Nigerians (...who personally know Jussie and work @ Empire), Jussie himself (...to help his own career/popularity/etc.), or FINANCIALLY help BOTH.

"Follow the Money", Deep Throat said. {...is a catchphrase popularized by the 1976 drama- documentary motion picture All the President's Men}



Police raided the home of the two persons of interest on Wednesday night, February 13 and reportedly took bleach, shoes, electronics, receipts and other items from the home. The two men's attorney, Gloria Schmidt, says they both have appeared as extras on "Empire" and do know Smollett.

"They do know Jussie," the attorney says. "They have worked with him on 'Empire'. My preliminary investigations show that on set it's very tight. They're all very cordial with each other, so they're baffled why they are people of interest."

The two men, who are both of Nigerian descent, left for Nigeria the same day of the attack, January 29. Their attorney says they went to Nigeria to visit family and were picked up at O'Hare on Wednesday night.

Multiple sources tell Rob Elgas, a reporter at ABC 7 in Chicago, that Smollett orchestrated the attack with the two men because his character was being written off the show. Brad Edwards, a reporter at CBS Chicago, additionally reports a source said that investigators believe the "non-cooperating 2 witnesses are co-conspirators in a potentially staged attack."

ftcfda@aol.com ftcfda@aol.com
5 days ago

https://youtu.be/ZwTl-QvCQcA This guy explains it pretty well...


No electric bear.. I just find it easier not to argue with the ill equipped.. I've read enough from you to know you're just a bigot.. Nothing more. No reason to argue with that. But I'm sure there are lots that would. just keep talking.


The homie Star’s latest episode :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hqUUuzYtgZA

Consigliere
4 days ago

This story was bogus from the start...MSM, was hoping on hope it was true. LOL

thecoach thecoach
4 days ago

*crickets*

Hello?

*tumbleweed*

Anyone there?

*owl hooting*

Consigliere
4 days ago

https://abc7chicago.com/police-2-persons-of-interest-released-in-jussie-smollett-case-confirmed-to-have-been-on-scene/5141900/

So the two arrested “suspects” were confirmed to have been “on scene” for reasons “central to the investigation” but they have since been released as the information they provided “shifted the trajectory” of the investigation...

The police are basically stopping *just* short of officially confirming it was a hoax.

Mark Mc. Mark Mc.
4 days ago

Typical behavior from the left. Hope this clown looses everything for being such a piece of garbage.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jussie-smollett-case-brothers-say-empire-actor-paid-them-to-participate-in-alleged-attack-source-says-2019-02-16/


What really happened? Nothing of course...swept under the rug by CNN, MSNBC, MSM..etc...etc...yawn

thecoach thecoach
3 days ago

@Tiedyeforever: “I can’t wait until the Baby Boomer Generation shuts up forever.”

That is not only hateful, but narrow minded. Shame on you.


The "suspects" gave investigators information and I believe Smollett will be charged soon.


Somehow he will still be hailed as a hero by the nut job left

Philliesman Philliesman
3 days ago

Chicago police believe Jussie Smollett PAID two Nigerian brothers $3,500 to ATTACK him on the street and they bought the rope found around the Empire star's neck from a local hardware store

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6713267/Chicago-police-believe-Jussie-Smollett-PAID-two-Nigerian-brothers-ATTACK-street.html


I think the 2 Nigerian guys are guilty--why else would they leave the country that very day?

I think the 2 Nigerians are turning around the guilt, and blaming that actor for "staging" all of this. that's b.s. that Jussie created this whole situation.

Hackresident Hackresident
3 days ago

"that's b.s. that Jussie created this whole situation."

Seriously? LMAO

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html

Calico696 Calico696
3 days ago

Could this have something to do with Kamala Harris and Corey booker - It so happened they sponsored a “lynching bill” and had Smolett was a supporter.

https://nypost.com/2019/01/29/kamala-harris-attack-on-jussie-smollett-was-modern-day-lynching/

https://www.newsweek.com/cory-booker-jussie-smollett-modern-day-lynching-1310186

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/422136-senate-votes-to-make-lynching-a-federal-crime

FAKE NOOSE!


Dangerous times we are living when all people want to do is divide the country with these outrageous false claims. I find it sickening and really feel as a country we are heading down a terrible path. If it is true that he did plan this, hopefully he will get kicked off his show and arrested for making false claims. Almost seems this should be considered a hate crime itself as there were many victims, the news outlets were all over this story claiming how terrible it is that this is 2019 America.

Infiniti2510 Infiniti2510
3 days ago

Civil war 2.0 is coming

Philliesman Philliesman
3 days ago

Did anyone actually believe:

Christine "2door" Ford?
The fake hate crime at the USAF Academy (except for the blow-hard one star general)?
The Columbia professor that claimed to find a noose on her office door handle?
The balloon boy family (not a fake hate crime but just as dumb)?
Sammy Sosa/Mark McGuire/Mike Piazza, etc?
This Smollett guy?

If you answered yes to any of those, wake up!

RV

Reggie Voter Reggie Voter
3 days ago

There is so little hate in 2019 America that a gay and black man had to PAY two Nigerian immigrants to attack him.

Consigliere
3 days ago

"There is so little hate in 2019 America that a gay and black man had to PAY two Nigerian immigrants to attack him."

Sorry Consigliere, but there's more than enough hate (from ALL sides) in America, however if someone wants to choose the exact time and series of events, then they pay people to bring that about when it's convenient for them.

We'll get all the facts and details at the trial or trials, but with the heightened tension in the USA these days, setting people against each other (no matter what the reason) is extremely counterproductive.

Phil D. Phil D.
3 days ago

Phil, there’s far less hate than there was at any point in history. I’m not talking about your family members who won’t talk to you because you voted for Trump/Hillary. I mean lynching and gay bashing and violently attacking people because of their skin color or views. We live in the most tolerant country in the world and we are at the most tolerant point in our country’s history.

Consigliere
2 days ago

Seems worse because of the mass media and the internet. Also, we are no longer getting real reporting..true journalism. Those days are over.

Biased news with their own political agendas and so hyped up and exaggerated to get more ratings.

Positive Positive
2 days ago

Re: Jussie Smollett: what really happened?

https://votesmart.org/public-statement/1322245/justice-for-victims-of-lynching-act-of-2019#.XGnlEStOmaM

This is the proposed legislation - that was dead until this incident revised it. Look who lent their support


Better check his phone records for calls to/from Harris and Booker.

Mark Mc. Mark Mc.
2 days ago

After the supposed Smollett incident, celebrities, news personalities and politicians jumped all over the news media and social media absolutely denigrating Trump supporters, conservatives and even white people as an entire race. It was sickening. It was very obvious from the start that this story was very flawed. Even mentioning online that the story didn't add up led to nasty verbal attacks and bannings from twitter.

Hate crime hoaxes are much more common than actual hate crimes by a HUGE factor. www.FakeHateCrimes.org lists hundreds of hate crimes that received tons of publicity - that is, until they were determined to be hoaxes. Once it's found to be a hoax, the media drops the story like a hot potato.

Did anyone hear about the horrific Kyle Yorlets murder? of course not. it doesn't fit the media narrative. MSM has a very clear agenda. Do not report on crimes committed by minorities or illegal aliens. They salivate at the thought of reporting on white crimes against minorities even though that represents a very small percentage of the crime in America. Why are they trying so hard to push a narrative that America is racist? It's not for ratings.


Well this bogus lie unraveled faster than the knot on his fake "noose."

We must be in pretty good shape if you have to PAY people to create a racial hate crime, haha.


No proof he made it up. Just wait and see. I wouldnt trust the 2 guys at all.

Botheredbyuu2 Botheredbyuu2
1 day ago

1stA is a one-time poster of a really weird website......

StrangerDanger StrangerDanger
1 day ago

What's the matter strange, you don't like websites that aren't approved by you first because they don't go along with your I am fartacus hero worship? Tough nuts. Once again, the liberal race baiters show they're the hate filled dregs of society trying to ruin this country.


Skip, I gotta say that your legal standard for believing Jussie collusion is far less stringent than your standard for believing Russian collusion, lol.

ianimal ianimal
1 day ago

Hey, Jussy is probably going to get called on this, but guess what? The most he could get charged with is a misdomener. He baisicaly called all trump supporters racists but it's no big deal I guess. But he is an actors so it's O.K. Pretty good publicity.

Check out msnbc and fox. See how different their takes will be on this.


Ha true - I’m going by the drama playing out in Chicago news. It certainly seems plausible

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/

Skippy Skippy
1 day ago

“The most he could get charged with is a misdomener.”

Actually, it’s a class 4 felony.

See Section (a4) and (a6) in the statute and the penalties in section b.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=072000050K26-1

Mark Mc. Mark Mc.
1 day ago

OK, here it is put together to read as one concise statement:

(a) A person commits disorderly conduct when he or she knowingly:
(4) Transmits or causes to be transmitted in any manner to any peace officer, public officer or public employee a report to the effect that an offense will be committed, is being committed, or has been committed, knowing at the time of the transmission that there is no reasonable ground for believing that the offense will be committed, is being committed, or has been committed;

(6) Calls the number "911" for the purpose of making or transmitting a false alarm or complaint and reporting information when, at the time the call or transmission is made, the person knows there is no reasonable ground for making the call or transmission and further knows that the call or transmission could result in the emergency response of any public safety agency;

(b) A violation of subsection (a)(2), (a)(3.5), (a)(4), (a)(6), (a)(7), or (a)(9) of this Section is a Class 4 felony.



Misdemeanors and multipl/subsequent violation statements are for different violations in section a, NOT (a4) and (a6).

Mark Mc. Mark Mc.
1 day ago

Trump is so great at putting people to work that he even drove a mediocre actor to hire 2 Nigerians to fake an attack.

JeffersonRepub JeffersonRepub
1 day ago

Re: Jussie Smollett: what really happened?

It was Donald Trump & Brett Kavanaugh

Lamppost Lamppost
1 day ago

this whole incident is just more example of MSMs 'Fake Noose' if you ask me

GreyHawk GreyHawk
1 day ago

Nothing surprises me anymore. Hope the truth comes out on this one.

dodgebaal dodgebaal
1 day ago

"No proof he made it up. Just wait and see. I wouldnt trust the 2 guys at all."

So BBYU at this point there are only two scenarios:

1) These 2 black guys who were extras on the show and knew Jussie personally decided to, on their own, attack him. That they somehow knew where he was going to be at 2am on one of the coldest nights of the year and jumped and made it look like a hate crime.

2) or these 2 black guys were paid buy Jussie to stage a fake hate crime.

Hmm which of those 2 scenarios seems more logical??? And curious why wouldn't you trust the 2 guys at all but have no problem trusting Jussie?


" These 2 black guys who were extras on the show and knew Jussie personally decided to, on their own, attack him."

They could be disgruntled employees. Maybe he treated them like crap, celebrities are not always the people they appear to be on stage.

or these 2 black guys were paid buy Jussie to stage a fake hate crime.
Celebrities do tend to like attention, so this is a plausible theory as well.

Both theories seem logical to me, not enough evidence yet. Not trust the two guys- until there is data, the ball is still in play.

dodgebaal dodgebaal
1 day ago

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html?no-st=1550361981

"Chicago (CNN)Two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation tell CNN that Chicago Police believe actor Jussie Smollett paid two men to orchestrate an assault on him that he reported late last month."

CNN is pretty bad with the "anonymous source" stuff though

skippy skippy
1 day ago

Both theories seem logical? really? So they just happen to know he was going to be in the mood for a subway sandwich at 2am on one of the coldest days of the year and were there ready for him? Really that seems logical to you?

on 1/29/19 it was a high of 11 degrees in Chicago and at 2am it was closer to -9 degrees. So you really think they were waiting for him all day in that cold to jump him? How else would they know he was going to a subway shop at 2am? Jussie's report also says he fought them off... really have you seen the size of those 2 guys? He was able to fight them off?


Not looking too good for Jussie. Harvey on TMZ said filing a false report could get you 3 years.

htownguy htownguy
22 hours ago

"There is so little hate in 2019 America that a gay and black man had to PAY two Nigerian immigrants to attack him. " - - - Consigliere


Best comment in the thread, spot on correct an wryly funny at the same time, well done sir!

GreyHawk GreyHawk
21 hours ago

On the day after the reporting of this, Presidential Candidates Cory Booker and Kamela Harris were horrified and called it a modern day lynching. When asked yesterday about the new updates on this case, both said they would have to wait for all the facts to come in before they would comment on it.

Don't you think they should have taken this position when it was first reported.


they not only were horrified - they released identical tweets and press releases


They should have kb - good point. If either of them achieve the highest office I hope they exercise better judgement.

htownguy htownguy
19 hours ago

Consigliere

I believe you missed my point(s). Yes, lynchings are practically unheard of, but I doubt if this is the most tolerant country in the world. That would perhaps go to Canada, Finland, Norway or Sweden...I think.

I was stating that there's both overt and covert hate ongoing between conservatives and liberals and parties of ALL types, both private and public individuals and groups.

I also stated that if you wish to create an incident (as JS allegedly has - the trial or trials, if any will determine that for sure) at a specific place, time and against an individual or group, then people sometimes do pay for that to happen.

AND "We'll get all the facts and details at the trial or trials, but with the heightened tension in the USA these days, setting people against each other (no matter what the reason) is extremely counterproductive." which means that IF he is found to be guilty and has indeed paid for a staged attack on himself, then that is only fanning the embers of contentiousness even more and does not help matters. In other words, if, as it seems, he did do this, then he screwed his own causes. The next real hate crime may be given less attention than it deserves and be assumed to automatically be a hoax. Hoaxes only serve to desensitize everyone to actual hate crimes.

I was making a very neutral post, but noting that people from many groups are spewing everything from dislike to hate at each other and the two main parties, both Republicans and Democrats are both off in their own corners waiting for the bell to ring for the next "round" in what all seem to see as a boxing or MMA match, rather than actually working together to get to a place of compromise.

People don't seem to be able to be civil towards one another in their disagreements, instead settling for making fun of people or their lifestyle while claiming to be tolerant, but then calling people names,etc.

Just so you know, I'm only addressing this to you since you responded to what I stated before. I'm not calling you out in particular, just making a general observation of the back and forth behavior of far too many on both sides of this, and discussions at both this level and the national level.

It's apparent that too many on both sides don't (or won't) see what I see and I just shake my head and move on... .


Phil D.

America is still alot more tolerant than the middle east... where they KILL people for being homosexual, they stone women to death for infidelity, they kill Christians by putting them in a cage and drowning them, heck- they were (might still be) actually crucifying them.

JeffersonRepub JeffersonRepub
10 hours ago

Jussie Smollett failed in his partisan attempt to gaslight the entire nation with a false narrative that doesn't exist. Trump supporters aren't racist, the president is not a racist and the president does not encourage or support racism. Its a false narrative that some extremists are all too gleefully repeating over and over again

It's just not true In fact it is so untrue that a gay black man had to hire two black immigrants to perform the 'racist' attack.

that's what happened here, and Consigliere is spot on correct

GreyHawk GreyHawk
8 hours ago

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/19/jessie-smollett-letter-brothers-attack/

Looks like some federal crimes were committed as well


"Looks like some federal crimes were committed as well"

Go big or go home!

Nice touch on the return address of the letter too (MAGA), but who "crosses" their T's like that? May be a little "tell" if the handwriting from those involved are analyzed.

Mark Mc. Mark Mc.
7 hours ago

Oh bull hawk. I agree, Trump supporters are not racist.

But most racists, who support anyone, support Trump. Why? His words emboldens them. He rarely condemns them.

Maybe he does not directly encourage them or support them, but, like all of us, when we pick through the lies, we glom onto that which pleases us. You see truth and Nationalism and are happy; I see lies and Nationalism and I am not. JIT, hope he’s OK, sees all from 39k ft. Oddbob sees puppies. Racists apparrently see something they like too.

At least that’s what the polls say.

StrangerDanger StrangerDanger
7 hours ago

The president is not a racist and the president does not encourage or support racism, period.

GreyHawk GreyHawk
6 hours ago

"But most racists, who support anyone, support Trump. Why? His words emboldens them. He rarely condemns them."

Same could be said about Obama's tenure in office. Black Panthers, Black Lives Matter all committed acts of racism but yet never condemned. If you talk about one side, talk about the other side too otherwise you are being dishonest.

Joe Friday Joe Friday
5 hours ago

so.. wait - its racist to state that 2 hate crime didn’t happen now?
do you see how false demonization of half of the country is a problem SD?


actually I didn't comment on this one since it appeared to need to be fleshed out. Plus, a single instance does not a trend make.

all I commented on was which candidate naturally attacks the racist segment.

if you like, I can comment more, but you're really pulling on my teeth for a generalization. This case needs more info, people like Booker were obviously premature in their assessment and condemnation. Doubt there is much of interest here except a guy looking for attention in all the wrong places.

strangerdanger strangerdanger
4 hours ago

France is experiencing some of the worst antisemetic acts in years from the extremist Islamic preachers and the leftists. Somehow I doubt either of those groups are Trump supporters. Same with Omar, Tlaib and the leftists over here. Trump is only revealing the true colors of leftist hatred. The dems treat people of color like retarded children. That's why she's many black people are walking away from the dems.


"Doubt there is much of interest here except a guy looking for attention in all the wrong places."

I beg to differ. There is plenty of interest here and everyone should be upset that a rabid Trump hater would go to this extreme to damage people. The rush to judgement by the MSM and Presidential hopefuls just goes to show you how divided this country is. Many wanted the story to be true so it would further add credence to their political narrative. Fortunately, many of us can see through much of the BS.


Meanwhile Kamela Harris will be flying to NY to have dinner with Al Sharpton at Sylvia's.
Nothing like getting the blessing from the originator of the racial hoax.


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