Venting thread 2019
People that take full advantage of very hard workers that are diligent, reliable and kind.
I dismissed and overlooked a lot for quite awhile. I’m at my wits end at this point..come Monday they will be getting my two weeks notice.
Positive So sorry to hear, Positive.............you definitely deserve what you give and more
4catmom 
3wbdwnj "Who Moved My Cheese" - it can be scary at first, but accept and embrace the good things about change.
GC Unless dire reasons- nobody should work at a job where they are unhappy or treated poorly. Don't kick yourself and don't look back!!
Josh Feeling betrayed by an immediate family member who lied and broke trust with our family. Will be hard to forgive this person for what they’ve done and the consequences that will come of their actions. Feels impossible to think about a rebuild.
Kris 
Skippy 
Old Gent About a year ago I resigned from my job after 15years. I was scared as hell but made that choice and took a chance and made the change. It was a rough start but since then I have realized being happy and valued at your job is more important. It's what you need for your body and soul. It has made me a much better person mentally. And don't worry the universe will give you what you need as long as you believe in yourself. Have faith and good luck .
Fishcatcher 
Calico696 This happened to me. I got promoted and my boss was god awful. Treated me awfully and with no respect. Switched jobs and have never been happier! Don’t be afraid to make the change! Your happiness comes first.
Youfriend 
Botheredbyuu2 Bad bosses or bosses you don't "mesh with" rarely improve. Makes steps to move on early on versus waiting months or a year or two when things will reach a climax, i.e. you are fired or you quit...
iJay Welcome to the "American Dream" or nightmare, as I like to call it. This happens in every field. Thank god for Bottle King!
Again...
auntiel Thank God for Bottle King on-line ordering, either for mail, delivery, or pick-up.
strangerdanger No. I thought about it and decided to not run but to stay and report this person to upper management. Whether anything is done or not at least they are aware of what this person is doing. Maybe a different stage would be set for future employees that would work under him. If nothing is done it will continue to be a revolving door.
Also, I didn’t want to act hastily and leave myself without a job, even though I’ve been looking.
Good plan Positive. Do keep up with your job search and look/consider for an internal move away from this Manager if possible.
2 idiots, high on drugs, get saved by Narcan. 1 killed 3 innocent people at a gas station in Wayne NJ. Another 1 driving school bus, with kids on board.
Save them??!! Sorry but I say NO! RIDICULOUS!!!
Commercials pushing “tele-docs”. They show a mom with a sick baby, rolling around on the changing table, crying, whilst her husband is in a chair with an injured shoulder, whining. She’s on a cell phone conference with a “qualified doctor”. Is this a sign of things to come? More sci-fi coming true.
Another vent: too many ads that say I’ve got cancer, hep c, this, that, the other thing.....and the treatment causes ten more “things”...uuuggg....
Guilty-Remnant I get it that no one likes to feel slighted, but I wish people didn’t have to call out every little thing on HL. I mean when you can walk on water, then have at it.
RAS RAS..Sadly I agree with you..it seems that too often these days a break is needed from HL. I often wonder about those that complain about everything and are always negative. Are they that way around family, co workers and friends or just here. I hope they’re nicer face to face.
Bessie Why do people advertise their services and then after you contact them, they never respond? I don't get it. Is that how you run a business? WOW!
GreyHawk Feeling helpless with the multiple nuisance calls, now both on my cell and homeline. Tried the “do not call” option, but to no avail. I never pick up, I block on my cell phone, Monday through Friday this house is ringing early morning til 8 pm. Oh, well, it could always be worse,
JudeKS JudeKS......National No Call Register.
It never hurts to be on as many of these lists as possible.
Geeey More details needed for the Scammer that's trying to rent out a ficticious apartment, please........
Hackresident I am sick of all the negativity that spews out if my family members mouth. It's exhausting and sucks the life out of me!
Just Saying.... Hackresident- 1 bed 1 bath 676 sq ft.
My friend called and turns out there isn't an apt. Poster is in another state, claims heading to Hackettstown and had accident and needs her to send $$.
BEWARE!!!
My car has "emergency braking" and it is the most annoying feature of all time. And it has to be manually disabled every time I get in the car. I am an attentive driver and I find that the emergency braking has been more dangerous to me in times when I've tried changing lanes or passing a turning car and the car cuts my gas. We need to make smarter people, not smarter cars.
Tracy Tracy if it's like my prius - which has all the new safety stuff, you can adjust, disable etc
GreyHawk I find myself not watching or reading the news way way depressing and hysterical.....No news just hysteria and overreaction to every thing...
citychick 4catmom, I can disable it, as I mentioned, but it's not just a switch. I have to scroll through three menus on the dash computer. And I have to remember to do it each time I start the car because it defaults back to being enabled.
There was a pretty serious accident in Washington late yesterday afternoon. What was absolutely disgusting were the amount of looky loos lined up on the sidewalk on Rt. 31. This included moms with strollers, and various others with their cell phones out recording. It looked like they were waiting on a parade to pass by or something. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Tracy, you may have sensitivity levels for the emergency braking. Mine has 3 levels and I run in the middle which is perfect.
iJay, I haven't been able to find a sensitivity option. It's either on or off. I've gotten pretty good at disabling as soon as I get in the car now. I have an Infiniti QX60.
Ugh! Some jackwagon rear ended me on Rt. 31 this morning. This is the forth time I have been rear ended on that road. The auto body loves me. Sigh......
jrsemom 
Luca Calico, Glad you’re ok. Your car can be fixed, you, could be another story. I had the same thing happen to me in September and now I’m so nervous I’m going to get hit again.
Glad you are ok Calico. People in a hurry and following too closely. It is epidemic out here.
justwondering Glad you're okay Calico, happened to me on 80W coming home in stop and go traffic. I actually saw it coming as the girl behind me was texting or looking at her phone. Saw it from my rearview mirror. She then had the nerve to say her brakes failed. Everyday I see so many people on the phone or texting. People are unreal these days.
kb2755 Thanks kb. Yup, this guy said the same thing, his brakes didn't work. He was a young guy from PA. Probably looking at his phone.
Calico, was that about 7am on southbound 31? I was going north to the dump and saw some police action with a rear ender there.
MK Oh wow did you have a day today. I may not know you, but I am glad that you are ok. Shaken, I am sure, but ok. It may have been a crappy experience, but it could have been worse. I am glad you were able to get up and walk away from it :)
Sunshine Girl MK - No, it was about 6:15 am. Sadly there are rear enders and worse every day on that road.
What ever little vent that was MAJOR two minutes ago has completely left my mind...after reading Caged Animals thread..........How effin important is it? My troubles? today.......not very.
littlelu My vent was made on Caged’s thread:
His dying father should NOT have to suffer. Caged mentioned his dads pain. Barbaric, inhumane treatment sets me off, when there’s inexpensive ways to keep a person feeling really great. Addiction, at that point, is a moot point.
To the loser who swiped the wallet off the counter at the Salvation Army when the little old Irish grandmother bent down to pick up something off the floor:
There’s a reason why she shops at the Salvation Army.. it’s called being 73 years old a widow and being on a fixed income. So she has very little money, genius, and a lot of priceless pictures, a lock of her husbands hair and her drivers license. Did you really think you were gonna make out like a bandit when you saw the opportunity?
The police have been notified and if they don’t catch ya... karma certainly will!
H-town Mama not sure if this belongs in the "tax cut" thread or here - but it sure makes me angry- https://www.nj.com/news/2019/05/these-5-nj-companies-reported-nearly-5-billion-in-us-income-last-year-their-federal-tax-bill-0.html?ath=63b4371e200ffc50099a99f922de8548#cmpid=nsltr_strybutton
To the piece of human garbage that lets their dog roam and defecate all over our yard, leaving piles of worm-infested feces in our yard, I hope you step in it.
i'm mad as hell over the building of homes in this area every where you turn they are building homes OMG did anyone think the one lane roads will be so packed that it could not hold the traffic or that this is not country anymore or more houses will be abandoned. GET REAL HERE we need JOBS HERE or a mall. especially with the price of gas Am I the only one who see's congestion brewing.
Try feasting your eyes at what's going on behind shoprite at hawks point in Washington
There are a lot of homes for sale we don't need new ones CALL THIS NEW YORK SOON they need to STOP
What happen to town ordinance of so much land to build on ?
tangerine 4catmom, I don’t blame you for being angry. After reading the article, I’m angry too.
I wonder how much those greedy big wigs are paying their employees.
Tangerine, the so called progressive development, which I consider regressive..is very sad and worrisome to say the least.
The main reason why I moved out this way 24 years ago, was to live in nature and be in solitude.
"The main reason why I moved out this way 24 years ago, was to live in nature and be in solitude." You and everyone else who has moved here in the past 30 yrs. You all needed a house to live in! As the saying goes "if you build it, he will come". I'm sorry Positive, but solitude in this area is a thing of the long, "long ago" past.
I live in the College View area and I have nature and solitude. I have deer, squirrels, and birds in my front yard, I have rabbits, birds, and butterflies in my backyard. It is a quiet neighborhood so I often read outside on the front porch saying hello to the walkers, joggers, and dog people who pass by. Life is what you make it. Sadly I am retiring to a southern state and I will miss the friendly people who own or run the town businesses, the good neighbors, and the life we made here. It another chapter in my life and look forward to my adventures down south, more friends to make, more books to read, more life to live. And yes, I know this might not be appropriate for the venting thread LOL.
Best of luck to you MK.. And many happy retirement years... I loved your post, it made me smile...
Havaclue Yes, hope you can continue your solitude and enjoy your retirement MK
Auntiel, when I first moved out this way I started with Alexandria Apts, after that I rented an old house in Great Meadows. Moving on, I bought an old house in Mountain Lake. I don’t think I contributed to the overdevelopment in this area in any way.
Side note: From birth, I spent every summer, every holiday vacation in Great Meadows and Hackettstown, since my grandparents, uncles, aunts and cousins have lived in the area for decades.
I’m not a newbie coming from the city contributing to overdevelopment and in turn complaining about it. Heck, I hate the design and lay out of new homes. Just want to be in the woods...
"The Kentuky Derby decision was not a good one, It was a rough and tumble race on a wet and sloppy track, actually, a beautiful thing to watch. Only in these days of political correctness could such an overturn occur. The best horse did NOT win the Kentucky Derby - not even close!" Said Trump.
Like winning without the most votes.
Roywhite I have lived in same house for 20 years, moving out last week. Really sucked when my stupid, ignorant neighbors worked on cars and mowed their lawn late at night. Yes, in the dark. And over the years they have collected more junk and broken down cars in their yard, then a junk yard has. During the day, it was peaceful. Night was another story.Definitely an eyesore though all the time.
BUT, during the day if you just stood outside it was peaceful. I still think Warren county is an excellent place to live for peace and solitude. HAPPY TRAILS!
Has a muffler become a thing of the past? the noise is so bad it rattles windows. I can see a lot of revenue for the towns IF COPS would do their JOB and ticket. I can see if it just happened but these offenders are the same ones day after day. I guess they could give a rats ass about their fellow man
Pretty funny. I moved here over 30 years ago to get away from the country and be closer in. Perspective :>)
I do take some enjoyment at the people who moved to Hackettstown to be in the country. Like living in town to be in the country. Pretty funny. I moved here over 30 years ago to get away from the country and be closer in. Perspective :>)
And now that the trees have created a canopy, the undergrowth is down and I can see two houses in the summer: bummer.
Over 700 measles cases this year for a disease we virtually eradicated by the year 2000.
The uptick can not be tied to an illegal aliens, but may be tied to travel.
Thank you vaccine doubters. What do you plan to bring back next?
fungus that's what people are dying from now. its the foreigners and hospitals are dirty
I am so upset. This little girl in an suv jumps the curb and almost hits a telephone poll, she may have bumped it. The mother says we are all fine. I was relieved. Police were not called and they left the scene of an accident. So many what if's could have happened, and didn't thank goodness. But to be so smug about it boggles my brain.
more and more school shootings - freakin' unbelievable what is going on in my country
Now the NRA looks like a Union gone mad. Management egregiously lining their own pockets with member dues and TV profits. Very cozy management/vendor relationships. Appears they are taking the profits after expanding their message from guns to media-based culture war efforts while lining their own, their families and their friend's pockets with the massive profits generated. Members are mostly good people who enjoy owning, shooting, self-defending, who are paying their dues to support the 2A, foster gun training and awareness. Most members support a number of common sense gun controls like universal background checks. In turn, management steals their money, lines their pockets, and then spends a lot of the rest to lobby for diverse cultural issues management seems to fee are more important than the 2A. For profits at least.
3wbdwnj
Was that the low fat version or regular version of Breakstones? I've always found them or the Target house brand cottage cheese to be very good and with some body to it. Was it perhaps starting to spoil?
The one that disgusted me was Daisy. It had so much milk in it that it looked like a cheese soup with the curds floating in milk even after stirring. It had no body to it and distributed itself around the plate, rather than forming a nice mound like mashed potatoes.
Phil D. It was the 2% variety. It just did not taste good and after reading the label, it has guar and xanthan gum. So gross. But I’ll check the date.
And I agree about Daisy. It has the cleanest label but the worst consistency.
I personally do not like cottage cheese, but my husband loves it. In his opinion, the best is Axelrod's small curd. He loves it. I do love Axlerod's onion dip and a big bag of chips!!
Parental Unit Missed your post on the NRA, strangerdanger.
Another school shooting, another child dead.
Very sad.
My heart goes out to the families of the latest shooting incident,,,,,I find it interesting that not one, I repeat not one of these recent shootings, where perpetrated by an illegal alien. I think we need to spend some large amount of monies on mental health, banning guns, and asking ourselves why these school shooting keep happening primarily in the United States..What is wrong with our country???????
Wait until we see REAL alien technology. Our guns will be their offsprings toys!
I’m not over P.C. but immigrant sounds more human. Aliens come from space...the emojis show a picture, so it must be true.
Cars speeding thru my lovely, normally quiet htown neighbor hood, while the kids are playing and folks walking their dogs . So I yelled at the next
moron speediing thru, to slow down and got the raised middle finger.
Pls drive as if your driving in your own neighborhood, respect those around you...
Htown newbie Htown newbie- You are preaching my mantra!! I am constantly dealing with idiots blazing though the streets of our neighborhood. I am known as the guy who yells when out walking as I do most every day (both walk and yell). And yes, the guilty speeders very often flip ME the bird. I never reciprocate though. It starts with self respect and respect for others- neither exists I fear, in far too many people today.
Greg What’s up with those loud motorcycles? It’s one of the most annoying, disruptive sounds, out there. Especially when trying to enjoy a little peace and quiet, along the rivers. Even deep in the woods, we can still hear them. I understand it’s a “safety thing”? Hmmm.... I’d rather (almost) hear rap music blasting.
Greg - I’m glad to hear I am not alone. If it means yelling at speeders to slow down, I will continue to do so. Perhaps they will remember getting yelled at?
Unfortunately, the middle finger salute, displays their ignorance and mentality. God forbid they hit someone because of their speeding.
Enough with the fireworks in Kenwood. I’m sure the ones being set off are illegal. Really wish all were illegal. People have no consideration.
Walking Girl Gonna be a self-inflicted stock market melt down today as trade war takes another casualty. Grab your ankles and watch those 401ks disappear. I know, I know, what goes down will come up -----> but sooner or later f-ing with finance by bankruptcy kings might be permanent.....
Bright news is it's might be a great time to invest all those tax cut dollars everyone has been banking..... I know I did on the last one and it was a beautiful thing.
Meanwhile, back at the White House, they already “shorted” hundreds of millions in the stock market...playing the dark side, knowing this would happen. They’re cleaning up, over there.
Like Gordon Gekko would say “The most valuable commodity I know of is information.”
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/96a89cd0-4fab-4f39-8ef1-ec0eee61e746/gif
I hate the fact that my stock portfolio is taking a massive hit all because the moron-in-chief sent out a tweet. It's pretty clear he has no real understanding of how global economies function, and he's holding us all hostage with his game of chicken. Makes me even more nervous thinking about how he'd handle a war other than trade.
eperot He is itching for a war. Always has been....Then he can play the hero hahahahaha that is almost funny if it wasn't so frightening
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27/hillary-the-hawk-a-history-clinton-2016-military-intervention-libya-iraq-syria/
Hillary was a hawk - sorry
She may have been Skippy but he is looking for war, and is doing everything possible to provoke it....
Ill address both Eperot and citychicks comments in one post
So China is going to increase tariffs on about $60 billion worth of U.S. goods. that's a rounding error compared to the GDP.
We import close to $400 billion worth of ChiCom products.
China is not going to cash in it's T-Bills.
China had a 10% tariff on all U.S. goods while our tariff on Chinese goods was 4% since the 1990s - a $500 billion annual trade deficit
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/443300-why-free-traders-and-all-americans-should-back-trump-on-china-policy
“Start with the basic facts: The average tariff that we imposed on China when Trump entered the White House was about 4%. China’s tariffs on us were about 10%, and, even when including the 10% tariff that Trump first imposed on $200 billion worth of Chinese imports in 2018, our tariffs were still lower than theirs.
“So the playing field is not level and is especially tilted against us given that Beijing’s non-tariff barriers in China can make it prohibitively expensive to do business there. We have an open market competing against the world’s second-largest economy whose doors are slammed shut,” and this has been accepted by American leadership for decades. There’s also another element to this. “What do we have to do to make sure they don’t nuke us? (sniffles) What do we have to do to make sure they don’t drop any bombs us? What do we have to do to make sure they don’t attack us?”
so Trump addressing a trade deficit which effects markets short term is provoking war?
Never said the trade deficit was going to start a war....It is just another link in his convoluted need to mess things up......Have no answer about the ducks lol....hope they are safe.
The worst ones, and not only on this forum are people who defend Frump with “well Hillary...”
So true, Roywhite.
Now we have a tariff retaliation from China, thanks to the imbecile Trumputin.
Calico, Hate, Inc, knows no bounds. No puny little town forum can stop the hate machine lol
justintime What in the heck are you talking about - there was an exchange of ideas wherein a broad statement was debated and all walked away amicable. I don’t see why this an issue at all. The prevailing point can’t be Drumpf bad without a basis in fact.
Keep wondering if some folks ‘round these parts can step back enough to see reality...
Part 1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_vla4l-AX8
Part 2 (better part)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rTf4KHe-M8I
I hate this crap: I have received 3 phony emails claiming to be from apple - and another claiming to be from paypal.............two regarding purchases I didn't make and giving me a link to follow if I needed to cancel - both phony - and then got one from paypal right after I used it -saying due to suspicious activity my account was frozen - use link to blah blah blah - also phony - good thing I didn't click - I did forward all to the appropriate places...........Just be careful what you click- this on top of all the unknown callers
I know 4catmom, it’s really gotten out of hand. I get at least 10 scam calls a day, scam mail and many scam emails..claiming they are from USPS. Also, I was scammed recently, when registering with USPS.
Who the heck can you trust?
Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, as long as they measure up. Many of us wouldn’t make it here under these metrics.
Litterbugs! I naively thought that most people who litter did so inconspicuously, but not the woman in the baseball cap in the white Mazda hatchback this morning on Flanders-Bartley Road. She threw a handful of napkins out her window with a line of cars in front and behind her.
Political correctness! People used to had thicker hides and could correct anyone who was out of line. In the last century, comedy used to be funny. There are very few comedians now who can be hilarious for a short time. Late night shows hosted by comedians who don't tell jokes anymore. The Daily Show must have dumped the 100 or so writers that they had for Jon Stewart. The poor guy now must have two writers and 50 censors. Politics has ruined the Pope, fishing, surfing, hiking, and on and on. You can't enjoy anything without someone telling you what is wrong with it.
Will we get to the point where your kids will report you to their teacher for reeducation to prevent the micro-aggression of laughter at home? Will we have to hide somewhere to listen to Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor or George Carlin?
When laughter is outlawed, only outlaws will laugh
One-eyed Poacher To me, PC is mostly about being polite. Can you be too polite? Sure. But I would rather work to correct that than the opposite.
Not sure thicker hides or correcting is out of bounds or out of style with trying to be PC. Don’t mean to correct..... ;-)
You’re absolutely right, OEP. I read a great quote by the hilarious and incredibly talented Terry Gilliam of Monty Python fame and brilliant on his own right. Tired of being blamed for everything as a white man, he will now refer to himself as a “BLT - black, lesbian, transvestite” . This was part and parcel of an article regarding how political correctness has destroyed comedy. The greats like Python and Mel Brooks, Carlin, etc would never have gotten by today. Our freedom of speech is being eroded. It’s a shame and unconstitutional.
Suze Trump just messed up the economy and stock market even more with his new tariff threat against Mexico. My IRA gives you a special no-thanks, idiot.
On the plus side, the inverted yield curve is nearly a sure-fire tell that a recession is coming, which may be the only thing to get him out of office. Never thought I'd be looking at economic hardship as a hopeful thing.
Political correctness is not unconstitutional, because it's not a law. You can still use whatever terms you wish for whatever you want to talk about. Sure, many people may dislike or disapprove of those terms, but you're still allowed to use them if you want. It's still your choice. Everyone's freedom of speech is just as much intact now as it ever was.
Monty Too bad you don't have a pension with the state govt. Your check is guaranteed and will still be coming. Steak vs Friskies in your old age.
"Trump just messed up the economy and stock market even more with his new tariff threat against Mexico. My IRA gives you a special no-thanks, idiot. "
dodgebaal My 8Th grader got off the bus from her trip to Washington DC looking miserable and promptly announced that she needed to get away and back home. All the other kids looked so happy and eager to tell about their trip, not my gal... although she appears to be Hispanic, skin color and all, she does not speak a lick of Espanol. The teachers who planned the trip and all the logistics of groups& chaperones places my child with all Spanish speaking kids who proceeded to converse with each other pretty much the whole time in Spanish. They found it difficult and annoying at times to translate what they were saying when my daughter would ask therefore my daughter didn’t bother asking after a while and felt left out. She asked them politely to talk in English when they were in the hotel room, but a few of them don’t know how to speak English well. When she tried to ask for a change of group she was told all decisions were final!
Nothing can be done about it now but it has me fuming!!!
I don't blame you Mama. So now our school is segregating our kids. Isn't that special. Did they do they same with the African American kids, Chinese American?? Now that's a teaching moment for our kids. Division at it's finest!!
I'm not sure you need to jump to that conclusion Auntie...….maybe someone just made a mistake, misinterpretation, and worse yet, did not correct when the issue was raised. And I think not being able to understand folks you are forced to bunk with is a fair complaint.
I was a commuter student so I really understand what it feels like to be an outsider in HS EVEN if you speak the language. They were all from there, I was from over there. Funny thing was I therefore aligned myself more often with a foreign element because we were in a similar boat --- the outsiders.....
But what happened sucks and its no fun being odd man out in a clique, or group. Perhaps you should approach the school politely asking WTF just happened? I mean I can understand integrating students if done universally and explained as such but this sounds more like profiling to me even IF the intent was to try to make people more comfortable by keeping "cliques" together.
The fact that she asked for a change, seemed to have a decent reason to consider, really would make me want to know what's going on IF for the simple reason that, worse case, squeaky wheel gets the grease so you could assure they wouldn't try this BS with your kid again. I would never hesitate to speak out for my kids through HS perhaps as a concerned parent for all but certainly as a concerned parent for one. And no, it was not coddling or being a mother-hen, I was interesting in fair play for all. If the fact I was a PITA and therefore they might have laid-off my kid especially just to avoid me, well, that's just a fringe benefit.
I think I would be checking up on this one. Best luck, stay calm, make your point, and make sure you mention ---- never again please.
Having not had a child in the school system for quite some time, do they get their room assignments in advance or the day of? Just curious.
Don't they pick their own partners? So did your daughter pick a bilingual partner?
When my daughters went on the trip in the last few years, they picked their own partners and then a big chunk of the trip was spent as the whole group anyway.
Monty, I’m not sure Roseanne Barr would agree with you. A tweet meant as a joke ruined her career. Please spare me the freedom of speech is not free...Yada yada...Point is that political corrrectness has made it near impossible for comedians to make a joke without losing their livelihood. That’s an erosion of freedom in my book. The rest of us don’t stand a chance.
I knew there was a reason comedians were on the endangered species list...….much ado about nothing.
I never said there are no consequences to saying something offensive. What I said was there’s (still) no law against saying something offensive, hence it is not “unconstitutional,” which was your claim. Freedom of speech *never* meant freedom from consequences.
Roseanne was (and still is) *free* to say whatever she wants. Roseanne’s employers were *free* to continue working with her or not. They chose not, based on whatever criteria they deemed pertinent. But there was, and is, no law compelling them terminate her.
Freedom of speech means you can say what you want. It doesn’t mean others aren’t allowed to disagree.
Semantically, you’re correct, and of course legally. However, political correctness is an infringement on the rights of speech. Tomato, tomahto.
“Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me.”
Couldn’t be farther from the truth.
Words DO hurt.
Should’ve been “further”
I hate when I make grammatical errors. I’m a big stickler when it comes to that.
I think age is getting the best of me. Lol
That’s the problem JIT, how do you Not allow it?
I’m not referring to the forum..life in general.
"how do you Not allow it?"
Really?
If some 5 year old tells you you're ugly and worthless do you believe it and accept it?
Same question for an adult that says that to you.
Grow a spine.
Takes practice positive but quite doable.
It can surely be upsetting to know that some folks are intentionally hurtful with their words, but once you realize that negative words stem from *their* problem and not yours then it gets easier to just ignore them. Life’s too short to waste energy on being negative.
I know it sounds kinda crazy but words really do only have the power that you give them...
I read an awful lot of online commentary similar to what Suze is saying (and it is not my intention to pick on her; she just happens to be the person voicing the opinion in this particular thread). I just don't quite get it. Like *all* things, "political correctness" can cross a line into the ridiculous. But at its core, it's simply an effort to be considerate/polite/kind to people. What's the objection to that? (Again, this question is not necessarily directed at Suze. Just a general musing on my part.)
"political correctness is an infringement on the rights of speech."
"Words DO hurt."
"Only if you allow it...
"Grow a spine."
"negative words stem from *their* problem "
"Like *all* things, "political correctness" can cross a line into the ridiculous. But at its core, it's simply an effort to be considerate/polite/kind to people. What's the objection to that? "+1 Monty.
Sure, there is free speech, fire away. But, at it's core, political correctness is defined as a "term used to refer to language that seems intended to give the least amount of offense, especially when describing groups identified by external markers such as race, gender, culture, or sexual orientation."
This is decided by the receiver, not the sender. It's up to the sender to decide whether to comply or not. Can people abuse this? Sure. Just as people abuse free speech every day practicing the rudest, crudest, forms of the art of communications.
"The term first appeared in Marxist-Leninist vocabulary following the Russian Revolution of 1917. At that time it was used to describe adherence to the policies and principles of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (that is, the party line). During the late 1970s and early 1980s the term began to be used wittily by liberal politicians to refer to the extremism of some left-wing issues, particularly regarding what was perceived as an emphasis on rhetoric over content. In the early 1990s the term was used by conservatives to question and oppose what they perceived as the rise of liberal left-wing curriculum and teaching methods on university and college campuses in the United States. By the late 1990s the usage of the term had again decreased, and it was most frequently employed by comedians and others to lampoon political language. At times it was also used by the left to scoff at conservative political themes."
Freakin Russians, they're everywhere :>) Point that was made in this thread was that PC was what killed comedy. No, my friends, PC did not kill comedy. People deciding what was not funny is what killed comedy. Other people decided they needed it, missed it, and want to have some more of that and that people who freely decide they don't think it's funny are somehow voiding free speech when they shun unfunny people. Others say it's freedom of choice to decide what's polite, what is rude, what is funny, and what is not.
Now it's just a term used by some people to deride others who stand up and say: "hey, I would rather that you did not say that." Apparently to some free speech only operates in one direction.
And JIT ---- of all people ---- should really remember what it is like when words hurt, manipulate, and denigrate unintentionally. He should recall what it is like to be at the receiving end of the stick. Many times he has complained about words used, people abused, saying it's intentional and a way of life for some. PC either works for all or it does not work. Either we attempt to be sensitive to the receiver or we do not. While PC is determined by the receiver, it is the sender that has the choice to modify or not.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/political-correctness
Actually, Monty, it was “One Eyed Poacher” that introduced the topic. Regardless, I’m not going to apologize for my belief that political correctness is an erosion of free speech. When certain words are considered off limits, that is not okay with me.
Look at the UK for example and their now very strict “hate speech “ laws. Scary stuff. I don’t believe there are bad words but of course the context is another story. However, some groups look to be offended by anything and everything. Of late there have been claims that peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist. I’m waiting to be told breathing is racist.
So, basically you are desiring that others not say certain things because it offends you.....
Very interesting......
Just to be absolutely clear: I don't ask or expect anyone to apologize for their opinion. Nor do I apologize for my own.
"Of late there have been claims that peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist" Since I have serious doubts about the readers of this website to look into things, I'm gonna just point out that this is completely untrue. In terms of the book Skippy linked, in the Amazon description, "Gag Book".
I think the better question here Suze is, what is it that you want to be able to say that you feel you can't?
Reasonable "I'm gonna just point out that this is completely untrue."
Not *completely* untrue...
A school teacher in Portland back in 2012 used "PB&J" as an example of subtle racism (or at least cultural assumptions). i.e. Americans eat PB&J, while other nationalities may eat torta or pita.
There are plenty of Google hits on that particular issue/event. Perhaps a poor example of "political correctness", but also a poor attempt at creating some sort of teachable moment.
Mark Mc. Oh it’s a gag for sure but Germaine to the conversation. Google the phrase is _______ racist and put in any word you want you’ll get hits
Actually Marc, you are wagging the dog, factually ut never happened except in a headline.
The teacher/principal never used the word racist kr racism.
The journalist did.
And the rest is history as folks went to the races, so to speak. Google it on snopes.
For the love of god, could parents please stop judging other parents when they choose not to drink and drive?
What's wrong with being safe? Those parents encouraging drinking and driving aren't very smart.
Metsman AND ANOTHER THING! My son asked his teacher to sign his yearbook. She said no. She didn’t have time.
My son has told me how horrible the culture is in this towns schools. Going to CCM pushed him in the right direction. Guess some teachers are more worried about their summer vacations than impacting the lives of children.
Turning right off Bilby into QCheck this morning a green service pick-up was tailgating me. I slowed, had my blinker on and proceeded in as even a motorcyclist exited....a busy in/out access point. This power hungry idiot blew his horn at me. Later we discussed the matter and he said "Dude...just don't cut me off..." There is only ONE LANE there you dummy and I was clearly turning right. You had to run up on me...like most Big Ego Small Johnson 4x4 drivers around here. Thaaaaanks.
Hipster Hipster, just glad you didn't get a real hot head or crash. I've had a lot of near misses there, like a big box truck that went through a red light - going straight up the hill, no less. It's a bad corner, but glad you are okay non the less.
I appreciate the empathy DDA. ( great movie BTW...)
You are right. If we'd all just slow down...take it easy and enjoy the ride it'd be a safer world!
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