Women's March
happiest girl
Iris 
scottso Exactly which laws do you women marchers want to see changed?
The last one just seemed like just a big pep rally.
Lili I'm going to try to find a girlfriend. Hackettstown is pretty dried up for a good looking man in his early 60's smh...
Sully 
Calico696 
Strangerdanger Just about everything on that site is already a law or in most case numerous laws.
So yeah what is this match for?
Woot 
Mr. Tone Why don’t you use google or click the link?
We’re going and meeting up with a bunch of friends. Trenton was amazing last year!
Nothing wrong with keeping visibility on women's issues. Laws are easily circumvented.
Please don't wear those stupid hats. I can't take anyone wearing those hats seriously. Makes it look like a girls day out for fun.
maja2 "The mission of Women’s March is to harness the political power of diverse women and their communities to create transformative social change. Women’s March is a women-led movement providing intersectional education on a diverse range of issues and creating entry points for new grassroots activists & organizers to engage in their local communities through trainings, outreach programs and events. Women’s March is committed to dismantling systems of oppression through nonviolent resistance and building inclusive structures guided by self-determination, dignity and respect."
Maybe it's me, but what the hell does all this gobbledygook mean? What is an "inclusive structure?' What system exactly are we "dismantling/" and "resisting?"
BTW, I don't think threatening to blow things up, wearing vaginas, and screaming profanity is exactly "non-violent." I didn't see much "dignity and respect" at the march on Washington. I saw a bunch of embarrassing women with vaginas on their heads (very mature) screaming and chanting a lot of 4-letter words.
As a woman, I was totally embarrassed by the whole thing. Maybe it's just me...
Heidi It's just you.
Yes I'm going. Yes I've read the mission statement. Yes I know many men and women who are participating in marches all over the country.
Perhaps reading about it would help. Ignoring some of the comments here that represent part of the need for this is also helpful.
Respect is lacking here among some - especially of the male gender. That alone is a reason to gather for the stated purposes.
4catmom happiest girl, when you read that link you do not see a contradiction?
Women’s Rights are Human Rights and Human Rights are Women’s Rights?? Is that except for unborn women?
The first principle is to 'end violence' and then in the very next paragraph you want everyone to be able to have an abortion? You can not get more violent then performing an abortion on your baby.
I believe, as do many others, that abortion is anti-woman. It hurts women not helps, replacing one so-called 'problem' with another one that has negative life long consequences.
I think the recent outing of sexual harassment by powerful men is long over due and hope it continues. I watch the victim impact statements of the Larry Nassar trial in horror, but am so inspired to see those beautiful young women coming together as an army to face the evil and support each other. I have a daughter who is now a beautiful woman and I love and am concerned for her as she forges her own path in life. I can stand with you on all these issues save one. I can walk with you on immigration, civil rights, equal pay for equal work, minimum wage.
but if you think killing babies = women's rights, I feel so sorry for you as somewhere along the way you weren't taught or learned the fullness and beauty of a woman's unique gifts are and the true power women have to bring to bear on the family and the formation of society.
Now please don't get me wrong, I am not saying that women need to be home raising a family. I'm only saying that to be pro-abortion is to be anti-woman, selfish & solves 0 problems.
Have fun at the March
a little more for your edification - from our New Jersey Coalition: "Women’s March on New Jersey 2018 Goals:
1. Empower every human who participates in the Women’s March on New Jersey 2018 to stand up for their beliefs and their rights.
2. Connect victims of discrimination, civil injustice, sexual harassment, or unfair treatment in an environment that encourages them to share their stories, receive support and know that they are not alone.
3. Remind the elected officials of New Jersey that they report to the people and the people expect their civil liberties to be upheld.
4. Bring hope to those who have lost confidence in our government by physically showing them that the power lies with the people.
5. Remind every New Jerseyan that our right to assemble, march, demonstrate, protest and vote is sacred and should be exercised.
6. Bring our Power to the Polls through increased New Jersey voter registration and participation in both the 2018 primary and general elections. Visit Vote411.org, and enter your address for voting information and local, state and national candidate and ballot questions.
The Women's March on NJ 2018 is sponsored by:
350NJ - Rockland
ACLU New Jersey
Affinity Projects LLC
AFT Local 1904 - Montclair State University
Awesome Marchers
Bar Method West Caldwell
BlueWaveNJ
CAIR NJ
CWA, District One
CWA, Local 1036
CWA, Local 1037
Dolce Federica
Englewood Clinic Escort Team
Essex Rising
Garden State Equality
Gloucester County NAACP
Greater New Jersey Coalition of Labor Union Women
Hate Has No Home Here Somerville/Central NJ
Health Professionals and Allied Employees
Indivisible Central New Jersey
Inspiring South Asian American Women
La Campagna Restaurante
Laura Palmer, Ph.D., MSCP, ABPP, LLC & Adriana Dunn, Ph.D., LMFT
League of Women Voters Morristown Area
League of Women Voters of New Jersey
Mobilizing Montclair
Morris County NOW-NJ
Morristown Diner
Mount Olive Cares
New Jersey Abortion Access Fund
New Jersey Citizen Action
New Jersey Education Association
New Jersey Humanist Network
New Jersey Sierra Club
New Jersey United for Marijuana Reform
New Milford Democratic Club
NJ 11th for Change
National Organization for Women NJ
Our Revolution - Essex County
Planned Parenthood Action Fund of New Jersey
The Prospect Finder LLC
RHG Architecture + Design
Sisterhood of Salaam Shalom
Social Responsibilities Council of The Unitarian Society of Ridgewood
Smartworld Coffee
SOMA Action
STAND Central New Jersey
Unitarian Universalist Faith Action NJ
Union of Rutgers Administrators - AFT, Local 1766
WEDO of Bergen County
WEDO of Passaic County
Women's Political Caucus of NJ
Yurikon LLC
YWCA Bergen County"
4catmom, so you can't explain it either, other than to say, "Respect is lacking here among some - especially of the male gender. That alone is a reason to gather for the stated purposes."
So now women are swearing, screaming and marching all across the country, wearing vaginas on their heads because "the male gender" is "disrespectful"? Okay.
Hey guys, heads up - I don't think you will be finding any women interested in you "disrespectful oafs" at the march.
Heidi, thank you!
It is not just you! Your feelings are felt by the majority of women! There is no dignity in acting like heathens, screaming profanities and no one is going to gain respect by disrespecting others.
Many of the causes are fabricated to cause division, and many of these women have no idea what they are protesting or demonstrating for. People need to think...really think, does this make sense? Usually, the answer is NO!
Nallie Women’s Rights are Human Rights and Human Rights are Women’s Rights?? Is that except for unborn women?
The first principle is to 'end violence' and then in the very next paragraph you want everyone to be able to have an abortion? You can not get more violent then performing an abortion on your baby.
I believe, as do many others, that abortion is anti-woman. It hurts women not helps, replacing one so-called 'problem' with another one that has negative life long consequences.
I think the recent outing of sexual harassment by powerful men is long over due and hope it continues. I watch the victim impact statements of the Larry Nassar trial in horror, but am so inspired to see those beautiful young women coming together as an army to face the evil and support each other. I have a daughter who is now a beautiful woman and I love and am concerned for her as she forges her own path in life. I can stand with you on all these issues save one. I can walk with you on immigration, civil rights, equal pay for equal work, minimum wage.
but if you think killing babies = women's rights, I feel so sorry for you as somewhere along the way you weren't taught or learned the fullness and beauty of a woman's unique gifts are and the true power women have to bring to bear on the family and the formation of society.
Now please don't get me wrong, I am not saying that women need to be home raising a family. I'm only saying that to be pro-abortion is to be anti-woman, selfish & solves 0 problems.
Have fun at the March
Thats a nice list, but I bet not one of them can articulate why they are donating.
Just tell me what changes this march wants to see. I bet 90% of the marchers don't even know. It's like the march on Washington when the reporters asked pointed questions like "what changes in laws do you want to see? or What needs to change now? Not one person explained anything. It was all "I'm here to support women."
At least Martin Luther King was very clear on exactly what he was marching for (minus the swearing and penis hat) and his followers were also very clear.
You dudes probably don't want to be dating women that attend these marches. Just saying.
LJRubi I genuinely don’t know if things like the women’s march will affect change BUT I think things like gender inequality in our society need to be addressed. Heidi- I’m curious what you think would be a preferable way to express concerns?
I have a young daughter and I would love for her to grow up in a world where she has all the same opportunities as her brother.
JosieMarie Sponsored by the NAACP, aclu and planned Parenthood? Will Al Sharpton and his crew be there too? Gimme a break. Women's march is just a bunch of angry left Hillary lovers that still can't get over it. TRUMP!
Tell her to get a job in the federal government. Females that are less qualified get promoted over more qualified males.
Reggie Voter "You dudes probably don't want to be dating women that attend these marches. Just saying."
LOL
" It's like the march on Washington when the reporters asked pointed questions like "what changes in laws do you want to see? or What needs to change now? Not one person explained anything. It was all "I'm here to support women."
Yup. That's been shown over & over again... maybe not on the MSM...
I wish someone would ask specific questions: "are you for abortion-on-demand, at any time up to and including the 9th month of pregnancy?"
JeffersonRepub Heidi. You usually sound pretty angry. There just might be something here for you. But you might need to talk about things you have seen with your eyes and heard with your own ears.....llive. You make sweeping generalizations about the behavior at marches.....Have you been able to actually observe live?
Okay I'm leaving. You can sit here and criticize.
Why wasn't everyone marching for the last 8 years? Seems like some of these concerns didn't just develop the day President Trump was inaugurated.
Ollie And President Trump spoke at the March for Life yesterday. First president to ever speak at that event. I wonder how much coverage the MSM gave that? I'll bet a hell of alot less than they are giving today's marches.
As usual, attempting to control the narrative.
They also march for immigrant rights.
“No human is illegal “ SMH
At least the women’s march do it on Washington unlike those morons that block highways.
Fallfan the msm is covering Trump's mistakes during his speech at the march for life. he did make a bad one that made me cringe.
I created a march for life thread yesterday, but it wasn't posted.
Interesting perspective.... "no human is illegal", yet "no human exists before it's outside it's mother."
And for some people, not even then:
After-birth abortion:
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2012/03/after_birth_abortion_the_pro_choice_case_for_infanticide_.html
"I created a march for life thread yesterday, but it wasn't posted."
Liberal bias here on HL? Say it isn't so..... tsk tsk tsk moderators....
I can't wait for all the news clips of the "ladies" with their vagina hats, threatening to blow up the White House and calling President Trump names (while stating they are marching to end disrespect, hahahahahah!).
Woman's March Attendee: "Men are so disrespectful"
Interviewer: What changes would you like to see now?
Women's March Attendee: I would like to see that Orange F#@*ing M*^&%$#&cker, shot and the F$%#ing, white house blown the F%&k up! Men are all M%*^#$*^$%ers, and sexual predators and I want everyone out of my F^&*ing vagina! It's MY F&*$ing vagina, and no F&*%ing man can tell me what the F&%k to do! We need a F&^%ing woman in the F^%*ing White House! And even if I take five F&%^ing years off to have a F&^%ing baby, I should make the same F^&$ing salary as some stupid M%&$#$&$cker man!
Interviewer: Okay, thank you, enjoy the march today.
You can always count on the HL'ers to take a simple thread about 'Who's Going' and turn it into bashing someone for their views --- way to go ---
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iJay 
Metsman I feel the same way when I think about the Roman Catholic church.
I guess women aren't good enough to be priests..
"I think things like gender inequality in our society need to be addressed."
"I have a young daughter and I would love for her to grow up in a world where she has all the same opportunities as her brother."
Dodgeball Guys going to the march today and ladies who have your feelings- a video for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRCS6GGhIRc
Dodgeball, sounds like you do not understand the teachings of the Roman Catholic church as you are using the phrase 'good enough'. I suggest you go to 302 High St. and knock on the door and speak to the priest there. I'm sure he'd be happy to sit down and explain it to you. Spoiler alert - it has nothing to do with being 'good enough'.
If your daughter would like to be celibate, consecrate her life to Jesus Christ and live in a community where their mission is to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ, help the poor, sick, jailed and all other humans she can absolutely do that.
Its better to have them marching on the street then then meeting back rooms or allys lol
Caged Animal Found the reason online, scottso. It makes sense now.
"Men are more likely to think of God in terms of philosophical definitions and logical syllogisms, he said, a quality valuable for fulfilling a priest's duty to transmit church teaching."
So now people are marching so women can become priests in the Roman Catholic church. Good grief.
CraftBeerBob One example goal from the link above:
"This means open access to safe, legal, affordable abortion and birth control for all people, regardless of income, location or education. "
This is a doozie for one very big reason: The current systems of Family Law treat parenthood as a dual responsibility, as once a baby is brought into this world *both* parents are legally responsible to take care of the child. Pretty fair minded and as it should be imo.
But it's the *decision making* regarding abortion that distorts all of that. How "fair" is it if one parent -the woman - can have the sole power to decide on the future of both parents as well as the child without any legal input from the man?
I'd go as far to state that it's women, who currently have access to abortions under existing law, that already have the power to make *major* life descisions for the man, often dictating a lifetime of financial slavery for those men who may have wanted abortions and the women didn't . How fair is that?
If this was truly an equality movement then the movement would be pushing for equal decsision making power during the time abortions are allowed instead of ignoring the lifetime of financial slavery women currently can impose on men. I'd say that women are already pretty damn powerful in that regard.
IMO what this movement really is about is getting a bigger piece of the national money pie at someone else's expense, but it has nothing to do with "fairness".
Justintime Similar to unaffected tribal units sometimes discovered in Amazon rain forests, this thread reveals that unaffected Neanderthals still exist in NE New Jersey.
Whodda thought?
Stymie ""I have a young daughter and I would love for her to grow up in a world where she has all the same opportunities as her brother."
I ask in all seriousness...what opportunities do women not share today with their male peers? Colleges have been graduating larger numbers of women than men for some time now. If anything, it seems men are falling behind in the 21st century.
Eperot Lets all be honest for a minute...
If Hillary won the presidency there would be no "Women's March."
That is undeniable and says EXACTLY what this march is all about.
Philliesman LOL on the negativity as usual. You don't like it, don't go seems pretty simple. Maja2 summed it well this is about raising awareness on issues.
Bonv Eperot- I’ve worked in a STEM field my entire career. I have absolutely seen prejudice against women. A man hired at the same time and same position was earning substantially more than I was- he didn’t have more experience than me, we graduated college the same year and I had a higher gpa. I asked for a raise after several years of great performance reviews and was denied (citing budgetary concerns). Eventually I was promoted (and became his boss), yet I was only making about $500 more than him annually. Its just the way things work, and I really don’t have sour grapes about it- but wouldn’t be wonderful if our daughters didn’t face the same system? Equal pay for equal work doesn’t sounds that feminist to me.
STEM professions aside, look at congress- overwhelmingly male. Same with leadership positions at Fortune 500 companies. I understand that there can be a lot of mitigating circumstances when you are talking about these leadership roles, but if you look at the numbers I think it’s hard to justify.
Forget the "overwhelmingly male", more like "overwhelmingly geriatric." Average age of a senator is 62. Today the average American is 20 years younger than their representative in Congress.
"look at congress- overwhelmingly male"
"Respect is lacking here among some - especially of the male gender. That alone is a reason to gather for the stated purposes."
Did you just assume someone's gender??????
To all these women who complain about not enough representation of women in politics...
What is the percentage of women who RUN for any political office? We just had a woman run for mayor of NJ and she lost. We had two women run for president in the last election; Hillary and Carly Fiorina, they both lost. In 2016, there were 86 female candidates running for office throughout all states that all LOST. Now, being that there are slightly more females than males in the US, why don't these women win?
"STEM professions aside, look at congress- overwhelmingly male. Same with leadership positions at Fortune 500 companies. I understand that there can be a lot of mitigating circumstances when you are talking about these leadership roles, but if you look at the numbers I think it’s hard to justify."
I absolutely agree there should be equal pay for equal work. That should be a human right. But what I do find interesting is that feminism only seems to pinpoint jobs of high status or pay as an issue, yet conveniently ignores any desire to assert parity with men in lower status jobs. You hear lots of women clamoring about under-representation as CEO's but dead silent about getting more women into sanitation or trades, say, where men vastly outnumber women. Men get to do all the dangerous and dirty stuff, including suffering 96% of workplace fatalities, but it seems women aren't too interested in that.
Eperot,
I have made the same comment on here before also and was attacked. Look up County College of Morris Women's center. This place provides Career Counseling and Job Search Assistance
Computer Classes
Family Law Clinics and Workshops
The Job Club
Why no boys or men's center? Don't men who go to CCM need these same services?
Colleges are graduating more women then men, and young men in the college are at a disadvantage when they need help, why should they, they are men, right? It's the attitude.
Also, if you are assaulted as a man, where is the "battered men's" shelter? Nope, none exists.
Go to NJ Department of Children and Families, Family, Adolescents and Women, Where is the "Men" tab. Nope, none exists. They are included with women when in a "family", but if divorced, widowed,etc they are AMFYOYO.
Real Feminists talk equality, but most are not real, most are just for the female cause. Links below.
http://www.nj.gov/dcf/
http://www.ccm.edu/student-life/campus-services/womens-center/
I ask in all seriousness...what opportunities do women not share today with their male peers? Colleges have been graduating larger numbers of women than men for some time now. If anything, it seems men are falling behind in the 21st century.
htownguy Eperot,
Here is the graph-you are right-look at the professions women choose vs men. Men are disposable vs women.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/03/06/chart-the-percentage-women-and-men-each-profession/GBX22YsWl0XaeHghwXfE4H/story.html
Heidi- I agree not enough women run for Office. Absolutely 100% true and I think that should be a goal of these women’s march organizations.
Dodgeball- yep, Congress is overwhelmingly geriatric. Geriatric and male. (Also seems to be the case for most CEO jobs too). Having representation that is representative of the population would be awesome. Do you think term limits are the way to change the status quo?
Eperot- you are right most of the talk of inequality does center around high paying jobs. I think the wage gap is strongest at that level and that’s why it’s usually cited as an example.
Interesting thing noted from this article.
1.Women's wages remain significantly lower than men's, but this gap is narrowing. (Most only want to work 9-5 or part time and choose those types of careers) The gap is narrowing because of the women who want to work harder like men are actually putting in more hours and are working like men, and seeing the risk/rewards of such a lifestyle.
2. Women control the majority of household spending. As this chart shows, women controlled about 70 percent of household spending, on average, in developed countries like the United States, as of 2011. Their control added up to about $12 trillion in spending globally. ( Women generally choose the housing- a man needs a garage and a workshop, the women choose the rest)
3.The organizers are calling for women to take the day off from work, avoid shopping (with exceptions for small, women- and minority-owned businesses).
Getting a woman to avoid shopping- Good luck with that, even with other women encouraging them- there are exceptions to every rule, however.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/03/06/what-day-without-women-would-look-like-charts/o8sCqv9MYyBuHcdAmzee4H/story.html
Which ethnicity and race combo not evident in this picture? Why not represented?
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/is_there_a_doctor_in_the_house_some_will_find_that.html
Dodgeball...That list of occupations pretty clearly sums up the differences between the sexes (that companies like Google...see James Damore) want to pretend don't exist. Women generally prefer working with people, and men generally prefer working with things and abstractions.
+1 Laurel very well thought and written. My biggest concern as a person in this population and reading through this thread is the divisiveness I see. My fear is movements like this create the infamous unintended consequences. Yes there is inequality all over the place but is this the way to solve it. I fear it may do more harm then good. I have to ask. Is there another way? Is this the right approach? Or do we want to create greater division? Dont we all need to get this done together not as a single gender? Food for thought and my two cents. Lots to ponder here.
CBB
Exactly Laurel, I make sure everyone is equally compensated for their skill and work; regardless of race or gender. Honestly, the baby-machine thing comes into consideration for management. In many fast pace industries, not School teachers with Summers off and substitute teachers, we can't have managers and above off for more than 3 months without deliverables being affected. I understand that in many foreign countries protections are in place for maternity leave from 6 to 12 months, and salary paid in full. For non-management, yes the merit increase and bonus will be lower if the person was off for 3 months in a year for maternity leave; this person was producing for 9 months versus another at 12 months.
Huge turnout, and a fantastic day!
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/01/womens_march_on_nj_kicks_off_in_morristown.html#incart_river_home
that 1st paragraph says it all, the Women's March purpose is simply to push a political ideology, at it's core, it is not pro-woman. It is anti-Trump -
"....Women's March designed as both a protest of President Donald Trump's first year in office and a call for a massive voter turnout in the November midterm elections."
Equal rights, equal pay of course. And we are not there yet. Also, when people admit to pussy grabbing, paying hookers for silence, they should be held to account.
I will still be a neanderthal, like halter tops in the Springtime, and am held in check by my better half.
I have got to get one of these hats; they are the cat’s pj’s. March on, it looked fantastic.
"What do we want? Justice!"
Really? Really? Justice for what girls???
Just another anti Trump gathering that accomplished... wait for it... Wait for it...
NOTHING! Great job gals! Phil Murphy is a bigger blowhard than Corey Booker.
Which of course is fine, this is America and people can march for whatever they like. I'm sure lots of women brought their daughters and had a blast. Good for them. Always good to spend time together as a family.
I am very disappointed in this string of anyone expressing women are not the most important beings on this world and deserve the utmost respect for the love they bring and have every law passed protecting her writes... And yes I would date a women marching for her believes as it was peaceful... we are in times that certain human writes have been ignored due to embarrassment and these strong women are coming forward finally call this dominance over sex needs to end and it needs to end now !!!! ... thanks to all for who support this point of view ... for those who don't well "go pound sand"...
LibertyThinker If caucasians can get the OK from the "Groper in Chief" to march for "Blood And Soil", certainly none here can object to today's gatherings.
I was there. Great day and powerful!!! For me it was to fight for women's rights and fight trumps and his friends awful ideas and treatment of people!!! Can't wait for the next one
Proud liberal So imporant to get women out and voting!!!!get the dirt bag out of office and make sure that mistake happen again! People who support trump have no morals.
Thanks for marching today, ladies (and men who joined them). I wasn't able to attend, but I'm thankful for those of you who did. I hope you're able to ignore all the junk of this thread. Keep resisting.
Teach Can someone please explain to me what Trump has done is the last year that has harmed women's rights. Proud liberal, people who voted for Trump are deplorable but the illegal's are dreamer's. Go figure.
You didn't answer the question. What has he done politically to harm the rights of women in the last year? Stop with the talking points.
JrzyGirl88 Please tell us what Jeff Sessions has done to inhibit women's rights?
Actually DONE?
The only thing I can find is his voting against EXPANDING the already-existing "violence against women act". So the act already exists. His vote did not stop it from being. And that was before he was AG anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_Against_Women_Act
happiest girl - are you really for "....open access to safe, legal, affordable abortion and birth control for all people, regardless of income, location or education".
What about all the girls that were aborted TODAY while you were marching? What about them HG? Please don't tell me the unborn aren't human or a person. Science has come a long way since 1973 you should read up on it.
Amazing turnout throughout the country not just in the "elite" cities - LOL. Record number of women running in local, State & Federal races. Great job!
Jeff sessions???
The guy whose job it is and has actually done it unlike recent predecessors, to enforce the laws passed by congress and signed by presidents.....
This is why you protest Trump?
Hey librals...don't forget what your boy Billy Clinton was doing with interns in the white house.
So many triggered men. No wonder they do t have wives or girlfriends. Lol
As for the pink hats, they are cat ears, not vaginas. Pusey has two meanings. Learn them.
WomanUpSon WomanUpSon, I'm pretty sure the women wearing those hats are not thinking they are cats.
scottso -- yes!! Government has no right to control a woman's decision about her body.
I presume from your statement you would have no problem with government control over your body?
Same old same old talking points. I'll ask one more time. What has the president done in his first year of office to harm women's right? I'll check back tomorrow to see if I can get a direct answer.
So about Trumps appointee Jeff Sessions:
A tape came out where Donald Trump described sexually assaulting and harassing women, Sessions refused to condemn the remarks, saying that he wasn’t even sure that grabbing a woman by her genitals is sexual assault.
Voted to block the Military Justice Improvement Act, which would have increased protections from sexual assault for military members and would have removed sexual assault investigations from the chain of military command.
Sponsored a bill to defund Planned Parenthood. Just so you are aware Planned Parenthood is sometimes the only health care clinic for hundreds of miles in many rural communities and provides routine yearly exams as well as mammograms not just birth control and abortion services. Also which many people are not aware provides Men's health care services too including problems with Sexual Health, Erectile Dysfunction, Premature Ejaculation, Testicular cancer screening. See if these politicians actually paid attention instead of equating Planned Parenthood with Abortion - they probably wouldn't cut the funding so they could get their little blue pills without the Family Doctor knowing.
Voted against employment discrimination protections (including equal pay) and opposes anti-discrimination protection for LBGTQ individuals
Didn't think the KKK was bad until he found out they smoked weed.
And don't forget about the Russia situation...
This is the man who was appointed to PROTECT our rights, and frankly by his views and voting records, I don't have much confidence in the fact that he will uphold laws he is responsible for. But that's just one girls opinion..
Well HG, it's kind of hard to respond to a hypothetical but I can think of lots of stuff the government does not allow me to do with my body :) I'm a little surprised you are pro-abortion as you won't even eat meat! I guess a cow is safer around you than a pre-born human girl.
Regarding it being 'your body'. Obviously, when pregnant, that baby girl is inside 'your body', but you must agree she is a separate body from your own. Yes or no? What gives you the right to end the life of someone else's body? Even one that is inside you? Were you marching today for the rights of EVERYONE or just your own rights?
Ollie, what is your definition of "women's rights" . Then maybe someone can answer your question.
Ollie, if you can’t tell the difference between cats ears and a vagina, well, there’s nothing that will convince you.
What gives men the right to kill sperm cells - potential life - by masturbating!?
IRun Tell you what - nobody with out a vagina can make laws regarding abortion the day nobody who has any idea about firearms can propose legislation Regarding their use
Skippy What are you protesting?
Record numbers on the stock market - record number manufacturing jobs coming back to America!
A Goddam Soros/Commie/Oprah/Hillary joke!
Divide and conquer - that's what they are all about
Peace out - have fun
ru Ru its already been posted up above why we march. Look at girl88 answer. Don't be like the current president lol....lack of..and just hear what you want to hear and not look at great information that's right in your face.
again I am very disappointed at this string... ladies as a gentlemen... I feel truly sorry for you as we have entered into a equal rights movement that should have taken place in the 60's and 70's if the ERA was passed into law we might not be still discussing the real life problems of oppression by the other sex that thinks is it stronger and smarter... Guys get your heads of your A - holes.. you have mothers !!!
LibertyThinker, more importantly, men have daughters. When the daughters started going to college and having careers, daddy's attitude about women in the workplace improved. Still a ways to go. Daughters need to be schooled from birth to understand that they deserve equality in life. They need to negotiate pay. Start high.
And parents, teach your sons. Stories of how these young tech men treat women is worse than 30 years ago. Shame. Shame. Shame.
Well, I had hoped there would have been an answer to my question this morning. What equal rights are you speaking about that President Trump has caused? Happiest girl you tell me your definition of what women's rights are. Oh, and Womenupson, I know the difference, I have one. Sorry my name led you to assume otherwise. You know what they say when you assume something.
@ Ollie you are correct "Trump" has done "Nothing" to lessen a women's rights as of today ...
But has said openly he wants to place Judges in highest courts what would make abortion illegal ...
If that is truly his intent then yes he trying to erode a women's right to choice!
Good Day Sir!!!
"But has said openly he wants to place Judges in highest courts what would make abortion illegal ...
If that is truly his intent then yes he trying to erode a women's right to choice!"
Or he's trying to save innocent humans' lives.
"Sponsored a bill to defund Planned Parenthood."
So he's attempting to fight for the rights of the unborn.
Perspective is an interesting thing.
What women here want abortion on demand, up to and including the 9th month of pregnancy? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Problem IS perspective.
RIight to lifers-fertilized egg is a human.
End of story.
Pro choice- fertilized egg is a POTENTIAL human and the size of poppy seed at 4 weeks.
Right to lifers- too late, too bad, WE decide.
Pro choice- still my body and my decision.
Pro life- unreasonable position and WILL NEVER BE THE LAW OF THE LAND.
NEVER EVER EVER.
Keep wasting your time on an unreasonable position.
KNOW the definition of insanity?
Why is it when someone says “women’s rights” the conservatives automatically jump to abortion? Do they think that is the ONLY thing that matters to women? SMH.
Liberty Thinker, please read my post again. I think I stated I am a women. Sorry my named confused you. JosieMarie, it wasn't the conservative who jumped right away on the abortion issue. It was the liberals. It's all you have. Same old talking points for years. Maybe with the new tax cuts and more money in your paychecks next month you can go buy yarn and knit more ridiculous hats. And FYI I have not stated whether I am pro choice or pro life.
"Problem IS perspective."
We agree on that.
"RIight to lifers-fertilized egg is a human."
Pro-abortioners life doesn't begin until baby is breathing on it's own.
"Right to lifers- too late, too bad, WE decide."
Pro abortion- as long as the life form is inside my body, I can have it killed if I want to.
"Pro life- unreasonable position and WILL NEVER BE THE LAW OF THE LAND."
So why are you guys worried about Trump & Sessions?
Me?
I'm not.
tRUMP ( aka PORN STAR GROUPIE)
has max 36 months left (possibly less depending on Mueller investigation).
I'll just keep working, making $$$ and watch the comedy unfold.
I am anxious,however, to learn where tRUMP JR's and Kushner will be serving their time.
PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE.
"tRUMP
has max 36 months left "
Is like the prediction he could "NEVER" get elected? ROFL
Stymie unfortunately that doesn't matter with the Dear Leader crowd. Trump was 100% correct when he said he could shoot someone and not lose support. The DL crowd would blame the victim and never look back.
Stymie - at 4 weeks, the life inside the mother is it's own separate organism. with it's own, unique, DNA. separate from it's mother's. actually, this happens before 4 weeks. It is NOT the mother's body, but a separate being inside of the mother and dependent on the mother's body to continue to grow.
it is not potential life, but actual life. calling it potential life is like saying an adolescent is a potential adult or an infant is a potential toddler. Or, for you animal lovers, a kitten is just a potential cat and it's life can be ended before it reaches full cat-hood for any reason and it should be safe, cheap or free for anyone to do so.
zygote, embryo, fetus, baby, infant, adolescent, teenager, adult - are different stages OF LIFE that begin with conception.
this is just science. it's funny that the pro-abortion folks used to accuse pro-life folks of basing decisions on religious beliefs instead of science. well now, the science has advanced to prove the pro-life position that life begins at conception. We have science on our side.
According to polls, many women are NOT pro-abortion so why insist on adding that to your mission statement and act like you are speaking for all women? Maybe the movement should rename itself to 'Women of the Left March'?
return to JrzyGirl88's post if you want any chance of understanding.........
there's more to say but I know many will not truly try to understand................
There must be many reasons why so many women, men, and children, grandparents and grandchildren were out throughout the country- but it's up to you whether you want to understand it or not...............
It was a beautiful and heart warming event - thousands and thousands walking together in Morristown and around the world.
Your error is that you classify pro-CHOICE as pro-abortion.
Totally different and purposely misleading.
But a distinction with a HUGE difference.
This is why you will never succeed.
Ever.
pro-life, not pro-life.
Once a man plant's the seed he has no decision to make either way. Says the law.
He does not want the child. No choice.
He wants the child and she does not. No Choice.
The law says the woman makes the decision. It's HER Body.
Pro-life or no pro-life.
As men, we have no rights, so why put up a fight either way for something we have no control over anyway.
Men already lose in custody /divorce battles every day. Maybe we should work on that one first.
your stupid for the day: On 19 January 2018, President Trump broadcast an address from the White House Rose Garden in conjunction with the pro-life group March for Life’s 45th annual rally. Lending his support to that movement (even though he was once squarely on the opposite site of that issue), the president told the audience that he was committed to building “a society where life is celebrated, protected and cherished.”
The president raised some eyebrows, however, when he proclaimed that “Right now, a number of state laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother’s womb in the ninth month. It is wrong. It has to change:-----
No Stymie - Not my error, but your need to rely on semantics and mental moral gymnastics so you can all sleep at night. Oh and we are succeeding. Abortion clinics are being shut down all over the country and the amount of abortions performed in the U.S. is decreasing every year.
Anyone who thinks women don't have equal rights have not stepped into a courtroom with their ex-spouse.
Also, when Sully landed the plane in the Hudson, it was "women and children first."
Ok, I get the "children", but equal rights- a man should drown, but a woman should not? What if that man on the plane is the only parent that child has? Bet you never asked yourself that question.
How about just "children" first, then alternate between men and women. No signs seen like that at any of the movements this weekend.
This whole "equal rights" movement is about equal pay, or MONEY, as we say.
Control of the child goes to to the women already.
Divorce is clearly in the women's favor.
Majority of men are the one's that die in war.
Majority of deaths at work are men.
Men die an average of 10 years earlier than their spouses.
This is about money, the one thing a man has historically made more of than women, mostly due to career choice and willingness to work long hours.
Studies show if women and men reverse their roles (woman has high paying job, man stays home to watch child, that divorce rate skyrockets- Women can't handle men taking care of children while they work).
Women are the primary drivers behind spending in the household.
Women generally choose the house they want to live in, then expect the husband to work and pay for it, if he fails, he gets thrown out and his children taken from him.
Watch the movie The Red Pill, it is written by a female feminist. Presents both sides of the issue. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3686998/
"Your error is that you classify pro-CHOICE as pro-abortion."
And your error is that you classify pro-life as anti-abortion/taking away women's "rights".
What about the rights of the unborn child? To you, an illegal immigrant (literally a criminal) has more rights than an unborn child.
Again- perspective. We can go around in circles all day on this one.
Hey 4cat, the one and only reason you lefties were out yesterday was to protest that you don't like Trump and you can't stand the fact that he won the election. PERIOD. And by marching, somehow you think you'll get him out of the white house. It is just disguised as a "woman's march". Why weren't you clowns out marching when slick Willy was sticking cigars into his interns?
Yeah, because women SILENTLY walk into a drugstore and get pills that can prevent conception after the deed, and other combo's that work a little later. Best thing, they can do this and keep it to themselves if they want to. And you daddy, you don't get a choice, it's not your body, it's not your child, it's in me, I own it, and I own control over your and your potential child's life 100% and the law will tell you so if you don't believe it. You want this child male human, nope, not your choice, I am the woman, you don't have rights I do. It's my choice.
Equal rights buddy. And child support to boot, and if you think you are not going to pay that, some nice gentlemen with body armor and sidearms are going to give you a visit and a ride somewhere fun.
Follow the money.
Just think about the fathers who wanted these children and WERE NOT given the choice to have them as you kneel in your pew this Sunday, I was one of them.
"Abortion clinics are being shut down all over the country and the amount of abortions performed in the U.S. is decreasing every year."
Regarding perspective, for some strange reason the punctuation mark of the meaning of perspective was recently brought back up in the allamuchy sign thread. Earlier in that thread Greg had measured and pointed out that the sign was pretty close to level, meaning the real issue was the person viewing the sign.
Perspective is important, and if we so causally discount the perspective of others it means that we ourselves are out of touch with reality. Stop, listen, and consider and put yourself in the position of others and it should be blatantly obvious that there's a multitude of ways to look at anything.
Dodgeball you sound like a lil bitch. I suggest you man up. Start by not blaming women for the position you put yourself in.
As far as I'm concerned women who get abortions because they don't want a child are cowards.
I'm just curious. Don't you all ever get tired of beating the same dead horse over and over and over again? My goodness.
Scottso,
Typical response when one cannot come up with a coherent argument.
Would have been great in a debate team argument or a courtroom.
Just think about your comment when you pray today.
Don't feel alone. Plenty like you in the church.
Justin, that was not sarcastic. But this is the internet, not the real world.
In the real world, that would never have been said to my face.
You are now seeing true colors, the red pill.
Calico,
Only until 15:05 today when the games start. By the way good luck to your Eagles.
Metsman your concerns carry a lot of weight with me.
(And I have a bridge I want to sell ya!)
I skimmed through Dogeball's last post. I didn't read it thoroughly. I am sorry.
Dodgeball that is horrible that you have to live with the pain of a lost child from abortion. I do know how you feel. Although, I was a willing participant in the act all those decades ago.
I know, from personal experience, that here is an emotional price to be paid by people having abortions, something that can effect their future lives and lives of their future families. A price they might not be asked to pay until a few years after the fact.
If there is any young couple or young woman out there, facing pregnancy and considering abortion because 'you just can't handle a kid right now', please reach out to me and I will do ANYTHING I can to assist you. You are never alone. Abortion is not the only choice, but it is a irrevocable one and one that no good will come of. Only pain or if you are lucky, numbness. Having a kid is not easy, there are tough times, but are also LOTS of good times that come from it.
Dodgeball - I do think the path forward for us includes forgiveness. Forgive that woman. Resentments will destroy us. Like drinking poison but expecting the other person to die. Take the pain you are feeling and do good with it, help someone else that may be in a similar situation. If you are Catholic, give it to God and join it with Jesus's suffering on the cross. Offer the pain to God in the form of prayer for others.
anyone have a problem with this - no different than new republican positions................
"Only until 15:05 today when the games start. By the way good luck to your Eagles."
Come on, Minnesota Miracle!!!!
(and beyond that, "ANYBODY but the Patriots"... even.... gulp.... the Eagles)
Just so we're clear:
"care" and "ending a life" are not the same thing. What's the Hippocratic Oath? "First, do no harm.."
NOT surprisingly, doctors are NOT required to "first do no harm", just like the police aren't required to "protect the public"...
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/first-do-no-harm-201510138421
Here's the one thing you're not getting: (by CHOICE. But then, you are Pro-"choice", aren't you?)
The woman has rights over her own body. Agreed.
But the body INSIDE HER is also a body- it's not a friggin' organ. It's a LIFE. And she should NOT have the ability to end that life at will. Alot of people call that murder.
And religion has nothing to do with it (not for me).
And with that, I'm done.
I knew your word was no good.
Now please show me a picture of a "fertilized egg" at 4 weeks when it's the size of a poppy seed.
Show us the picture-you lose.
DON'T show us the picture-You're exposed as a rank idealogue.
Pick yer poison.
The size at 4 weeks has no bearing on the life being separate. It has unique DNA, separate from Mom and at 12 weeks there is a heartbeat therefore his or her own heart, separate from Mom's. What exactly is your point stymie?
LJRubi et al: most Americans do not support Bill Clinton's actions; it's just that it's not job related. Likewise for Trump. Obviously he's cheated on most of his many wives, why would anyone expect that to change.
Abortion is the law of the land. Feel free to challenge in court, to not support in debate. But do not feel free to call me names or chastise me for my belief, which in this case, happens to be the law of the land. We're all killers in this world: we kill men, women, and children. I mean this many years in war and you don't think we're killing women and children? More now today that under our previous President?
As to Trump and women's rights; this man has done nothing but verbally and physically demean women before and after he hit office, along with any minority that is in view. You can't tell me the Access Hollywood tape is pro-women or even pro-equal rights. You can say words and policies are different, but really.....this guy is a troglodyte when it comes to gender. He is from the 60's with a 50's cake-eaters mentality when it comes to gender.
This is our President, being presidential: "You know, you're in such good shape," Trump said, before repeating the observation to her husband. "Beautiful," he added." That's how he treats the wife of a President.
History of Trump verbal sexism and beyond: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place/ Sorry, it's very, very long.
Now, when it comes to policy and women, I think there's like 60% of all people who feel Trump's policies are inadequate, uninformed, and chaotic. Does it really matter that the policies only affect women, or is it OK for women to be upset by polices that affect women and men? That alone calls for a march IMHO.
On the actual women's issue and policies. First, he's done nothing positive. Period. There is absolutely zero evidence of any proactive actions by Trump to advance women's rights or the ERA. But there is a long list of things he's done, are in law, or he plans to do shortly. Here's the reader's digest version:
Delayed increases in overtime Slashed support for military caregivers
Blocked pay transparency protections Eliminated child care for military families
Endangered women’s retirement security Failed to advance equal pay
Threatens child care assistance Stalled paid family and medical leave
Impairs FMLA enforcement Cuts nurse training
Drops LGBTQ seniors and people with disabilities from data collection
Slashes nutrition assistance for WIC Cuts after-school programs
Slashes Head Start funding and jobs
Abandons efforts to tackle sexual assault and harassment in education
Eliminates pediatric services
Denies women reproductive, educational, and counseling services by limiting Title X availability
Attacks Planned Parenthood Endangers funds for Zika research
Brought back the Global Gag Rule Halted family planning funds abroad
Interferes with abortion care
Threatened maternity coverage by nominating Seema Verma
Cuts funding for teen pregnancy prevention
Limits coverage of abortion by calling for the Hyde Amendment
Expands religious exemptions Slashes health and human services
Politicizes the judiciary Seeks to stack the courts with anti-choice judges
Threatens civil rights enforcement Refused to fight voter suppression Attacks abortion rights Puts religious views of employers before workers
Defended lies about Planned Parenthood Undermined pregnancy discrimination protections
Cuts the National Domestic Violence Hotline
Failed to oppose sexual assault Refused to fight sexual assault in schools
Defended accused sexual harassers Cuts violence against women programs
Endangered Muslim women Silences victims of domestic abuse
Cuts requirement that insurers cover domestic violence screenings
Allowed contracting with companies with sexual assault violations
Failed to elevate women and people of color in leadership
Appointed three men for every woman
Sidelined the White House Council on Women and Girls:
Left key women’s leadership posts vacant.
Slashes the DOL Women’s Bureau
Nominated a health secretary who threatens women’s health
Nominated an attorney general who won’t defend women’s rights
But wait, there's more: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/women/reports/2017/04/25/430969/100-days-100-ways-trump-administration-harming-women-families/
Scottso,
Apology accepted. How many wars have been started over misunderstandings?
This happened years ago. She did it without my knowledge, I found out by accident later. I'll never know if it was a boy or a girl, how tall or short, blond or black hair.
Was it her right to be able to make this choice without me? By law, yes. I had no "equal rights." I have not forgiven her (as I do not blame her or shame her for it) I don't ever believe she meant to hurt me or destroy a life on purpose, I was not inside her head then nor now. She made a decision (maybe with friends or family push idk) and it happened.
Life goes on.
J Repub
Attached the link for your other statement. This lawsuit is a great read and something EVERY AMERICAN should read as many do not really know how these things work and just assume they know. It's also quite easy to understand the legal issue.
Good luck to your Vikings also, expect to see a great game today.
I have no skin in the games anymore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
I believe the request was 4 weeks.
No can do??
And again, the definition of insanity??
From above:
"This is the man who was appointed to PROTECT our rights"
FYI, he heads the Executive branch of government and his job is to enforce laws passed by the congress.
Your attention should be directed toward Congress to affect changes to laws you don't like, not the President. He's nothing more than the proverbial figure head. The real action resides with Congress.
Looking for interesting quotes today and found this gem from Michel Eyquem de Montaigne.
CBGB Stymie,
So then, you're ok with an abortion at 4 weeks, but not at 6... RIGHT? ;)
Please, enlighten us as to what point of pregnancy YOU think an abortion is ok. And we'll take a non-answer as "anytime, including the 9th month, because it's a woman's right to kill the baby as long as it's in her body."
The women's march movement should be called;
" The Women's who want to kill their babies whenever they want and have the government pay for said abortion, want to wear dresses with our boobs hanging out and our skirts showing our cracks and curves, but don't want disgusting white predatory men to notice and comment otherwise they should go to jail for sexuall harrasment- only other women can say we look hot, want to stay home for a year or two and come back and get the same pay as the dumb dispicable white middle aged man in the same office who took no time off, don't want to be told what to do by anybody about anything, only females should run the world and the men should all go die because the're all useless and sexual predators anyway, March.
Stymie - so here's your link - https://www.babycenter.com/fetal-development-images-4-weeks
can you please now state your point of having me post the 4 week link?
Brendan I do find it comical that individuals, wholly independent and ignorant of a particular situation, assume the mantle of judgement over a woman's next several decades of life based on the formulation of unique DNA in their bodies.
When, or how far into a pregnancy I believe it can be terminated is a trap question.
I do not believe that this decision is within my realm as I will never have to make it.
I will leave this personal decision to all women who find themselves in that position.
Thank God this is a forever losing proposition for the Pro- birth ( not pro-life) groups.
UH, nice try....
Please reference that statement from me.
"Alternate facts" from you?
Guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Weak and hollow of you...
Men, you had a choice. Let a women get to know you and decide if you are an ahole before you have sex. This can take many months. Use birth control every time, or be in a loving, committed relationship where you both clearly agree to have children, then have sex. No abortion required. Didn't manage that, you are to blame.
Wow again. Mention Women's Rights to many here, especially JR, and the only thing they think of it abortion and how they hate the current law.
I posted a list of issues in the actions or pending actions of the Trump Administration that affect women.
If all you come up with is abortion as your belief as to why these women are marching, you are extremely shortsighted.
Just because I am a woman doesn't mean I have to "support" and "agree" with all women.
I don't agree that abortion should be free or "on demand, whenever." . I feel if my daughter gets pregnant by "accident" and wants an abortion, she should pay for it, just like she should pay for a boob job or I should pay for my own face lift. I don't think any of my fellow citizens should pay for my stuff. I also don't agree with the way these women are fighting for equal pay, even when they were out of the workforce for years. As a business owner, I am going to pay the better employee and the person who has been doing the job longer and more consistently, whether they are male or female. I'm not going to pay the female the same salary as my male employee that's been with me longer, just because we share having a vagina.
I also don't like how many of these women talk about men. Look at some of the signs they are carrying. As a wife of a wonderful, caring man and the mother of sons I feel bad for the way white men are being portrayed. I have even told my sons not to comment on a woman's appearance or ask a woman out that they work with. That's a sad state of affairs. I met my husband at work back in the late 1970's. He pursued me and I said no a few times. He whistled at me. He brought flowers to work. I finally said yes and we have been together ever since (best decision I've made). In this day and age he would probably be fired for sexual harassment for not taking no for an answer the first few times,
I'm sorry my opinion is so troubling to many of you, but that's just how I feel.
"Be in a loving committed relationship" until your wife decides the grass is greener in the neighbor's bedroom.
I know, if she did that, it's the "man's fault" and he needs to be "taken to the cleaners."
We get it.
Heidi,
You bring up valid points- just don't expect all to agree with you.
Watch this video below. Watch the woman with the "punching" motion and see what her response was.
Listen to the police officer and what his response was.
Listen to those in the studio and their response was.
Then listen to the women that actually called the police. They were the exception, they went against the crowd 170-3. Took courage unlike the other cowards. These were rational, non-judgemental women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?ab_channel=Clotheslinemedia&v=LlFAd4YdQks
And Heidi,
Congratulations for you for having a happy successful marriage to both you and your husband for working together as a team.
Heidi- you are certainly entitled to your opinion. However your last post came across as pretty disdainful of people who don’t agree with you. Are they not entitled to their opinion?
JosieMarie - Sure, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and entitled to freely express that opinion. The post i made took the information straight from the Women's Marches own website. they want free abortion whenever they want, or at least that's what they say on their website. They want equal pay to men for the same job, period. I don't see a single disclaimer like for the same amount of time worked or whatever. I went right down their own list of what they say they stand for.
Do they not want free abortions, up to whatever point they want? YES
Do they not want equal pay, period. No matter the other reasons they might not be getting it -- like because they were out raising a family or can't drop everything and jump on a plane like the guy can? YES
Do they not see any man who says nice ass or hey wanna come over tonight? or can I touch your boob as a sexual predator that should be fired and publicly shamed? YES
It's funny that when they put it on their website with words like "empower' and "teach" its accepted, but when ylu point out what they are actually asking for everyone freaks out.
Very, very interesting.
Interesting to see multiple new reports all over my face page from CNN CBS BBC Irish Times ect and all the other MSM outlets about the Woman's marches, but outside of Fox, not barley a mention of the March for Life. If you looks at the crowds in the link, I would definitely say it's news worthy. https://www.facebook.com/studentsforlife/videos/10155143300192927/
Denis Something to think about.
"Based on available state-level data, an estimated 908,000 U.S. abortions took place in 2015.
In 2014, an estimated 926,240 abortions took place in the United States, down from 1.06 million in 2011, 1.21 million abortions in 2008, 1.2 million in 2005, 1.29 million in 2002, 1.31 million in 2000 and 1.36 million in 1996. From 1973 through 2011, nearly 53 million legal abortions occurred in the U.S (AGI)."
If Planned Parenthood(free birth control) really was a success why are the abortion rates still so high?
Every intelligent woman knows the minute they have unprotected sex they can get pregnant. So why aren't they utilizing these free services?
As for equal rights and equal pay. I as a woman feel the rights are equal. I'm a business owner. I'm in full control of what I make. And I know many women extremely close to me that through hard work are actually making more money than men.
On an end note. I went back to work 5 weeks after giving birth..........
These women marches especially with the cat hats disgust me! So degrading to women. IMHO!
Again! IMHO! They are just worthless marches protesting Trump. The Man wasn't in office for a day not even given a chance to prove himself n the hate marches started within hours!
Realist your girlfriend gets pregnant or your daughter or a friend and you say well this decision is not in my realm sorry you're on your own.
You are a coward stymie.
WomanUpSon
This has been discussed before in this clip, with a tad bit of humor-or not.
"What gives men the right to kill sperm cells - potential life - by masturbating!?"
WomanUpSon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
Cannot bait me.
Ultimately, it is not my body- it is not my decision.
Huff and puff and try as you might.
Call me names. Belittle me.
I can offer counsel to those close to me, BUT IT IS NOT MY BODY THEREFORE NOT MY DECISION.
I lack your all knowing, all seeing intelligence to make unilateral decisions for those I do not even know, in situations I am ignorant to.
Key term for you here Scottso- ignorance.
Your name calling erases any sense of credibility you "may" have had.
Down to zip
Zero
Nada
B-bye
The issue has never been about ownership of ones body. That's always been clear and never the issue so it's a moot point to bring up. No disagreement ever from anyone I think.
Rather, the issue is the ownership of someone else, the baby, which is completely different. What right does the baby have, and when. The rest is just emotional mumbo jumbo.
There are extenuating circumstance why people pick abortion,incest rape, just to name a few, also teen pregnancy... I personally could never go that route, but I have no right to tell anyone else what to do that decision is between them and their God. Abortion as birth control horrible. This not an easy topic and I do not think there is an easy answer...I am old enough to remember when abortions where done in back rooms with coat hangers and both died....There are states that refuse to teach sex educations and teach children to have safe sex... States that believe talking about sex just makes children think about it LOL....instead of explaining and given the knowledge they forbid it......Abortion is not the only answer but unfortunately no one seems to teach alternatives....The women's march is not only about equal pay, it is about women being forced into marriages at 14 or younger....Surprise surprise it happen in this country also....
citychick Um Denis,
You must have failed English, that was not my comment, it is a repost from WomenUpSon.
Sully,
Men are too busy working, but in theory I agree with you.
"How about a Men's March!. Now that would be cool."
These women are ridiculous and pathetic...women in America are not oppressed! I watched the interviews..most had no idea why were there..it was more of an anti Trump March than a women's rights march..these women are embarrasing!
Stymie, laws are written by society, they can and do change with changes in knowledge. That's why we no longer advocate slavery (except financial lol), racism and the like.
In this case how does the law keep up with current understanding of fetal development? For instance,
https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002398.htm
Justin, the law is not just written and changed with knowledge, it is also changed and written with what politicians believe and will help them win.
If you are a politician and want the female vote, majority female voters want pro choice.
Not sure what the average male thought is on this issue, but if you don't have any rights to control the situation, why bother voting/caring at all. Once a woman gets pregnant by you, she holds the cards. Another poster mentioned this earlier. This is now why rich men are freezing their sperm, then having a vasectomy. You now control your own reproduction. A woman that claims she loves you but who is just for the money is out of luck. You can hire a surrogate and the child becomes yours with no legal ties to anyone else.
And the women who want children, they can buy sperm at a sperm bank for less than the lease downpayment on a car. They can pick tall, dark and handsome if they like. They can pick a rocket scientist if they like, or big muscles if they like, etc.
What it does not come with is 18 years of child support- the biggest advantage to using a natural method of sperm donation (to some women, others may or do really love their spouses-including their idiosyncrasies.)
"In this case how does the law keep up with current understanding of fetal development? "
I thought this was about the womens march. I didn’t know the only thing it was about was abortion. Thats a one trick pony. Personally I think life started on Heidi’s acceptance of the first wolf whistle :-)
Curious if these marches would have been held if HC had won? What about the previous 8 years, oh wait he was a Dem and all women were well taken care of. And as far as abortion goes, let us welcome every illegal/legal immigrant into our country, offer them all assistance they need and the ability to grow and prosper but the little baby, yes I said baby, growing inside it's mother, that child is not welcomed into this world so it is killed. Show compassion to everyone, help everyone, welcome everyone except that innocent child. Close your legs ladies, it takes two to get pregnant.
justwondering I went to NYC yesterday. Had a great experience. Glad I went. Looking forward to the next one.
Livelifeboldly... Ask the people in Germany and Sweden and other European countries being overun by refugees what they think of their leaders. Trump is a buffoon but he will not allow what's happening there happen here.
kb2755 Proud Liberal,
Not choosing either side on this, but if Trump is so bad what does that say about Hillary?
Was she the best the democrats had on their side- really? Big money put her up. If you could do this over again, who would you choose to put up besides Hillary?
For example, here is one choice. Tulsi Gabbard. A soldier, a medic, but probably not well enough connected to the rich elite and maybe not a "team player" as Hillary.
She served in a combat zone in Iraq from 2004 to 2005 and was deployed to Kuwait from 2008 to 2009. Gabbard previously served in the Hawaii House of Representatives from 2002 to 2004, becoming at age 21 the youngest woman to be elected to a U.S. state legislature at the time.
43 million people in the USA over 40 years old, and these were the two best we could come up with-really? And now the media is pushing Oprah- really.
When this ship goes belly up, the USA is only going to have itself to blame.
Money over common sense.
@proud Liberal, I think most people who voted for Trump were more concerned about this county, than the opinions of other countries. I would place little to almost no value on what other countries think. We would be better off without some of our so called friends, and allies.
I am an island. I am a rock. I am beholden to none, responsible to myself and will not trample on the rights of others and I would not be trampled upon
Except those women who dare to have reproductive rights. We want ro tell them what to do.
Let’s throw the immigrant card. Dog whistle.
Picture from the Morristown event taken by my Mom. Funny, some Republican friends of mine in the area complained about the traffic.
Great idea kn2755. Ask the people in Germany about tRUMP.
I'm sure they will have "special" insights to share with you.
Historically based.
Stymie, not sure the many people in Germany have any historical insights into the Drumph. I think most are concerned about their wife's and daughters being taken advantage of by refugees, if you know what I mean.
Reproductive Rights?
Spoiler alert SD once you have a fertilized egg you've reproduced! Shocking I know, but it's true. At that point, there is no choice on whether or not to reproduce - it's already done! You have exercised your right to reproduce.
The right you are referring to is NOT the right to reproduce but the right to end a life, which thankfully is being exercised less and less in this country.
Scottso; so cut n dry. You should take it to court. Until then, the law is the law.
And it wasn’t even a main reason for the march. You just fixated on it.
What scottso says true in its way. Not disagreeing.
Yet, it is also true historically that you are recognized as having a child only upon its birth. So that's another way.
"The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world." Max Born, Physicist.
jd2 Heidi,
So, obviously you think certain things are *perfectly OK*.
So when YOU say those things to a man ... ( hey ... "nice ass" ... "can I touch your penis" ..... "hey, wanna come over tonite" ) that is normal procedure for you?
Sounds like it, or you wouldn't say it's OK for a man to say these things to a woman.
Your husband is OK with it?
Your children are OK with it?
Your friends and family are OK with it?
You think that is normal behavior on your part?
Were you proud of yourself?
Most of all -------
Did it make you feel dominant?
Or --- oops ---- do you *NOT* say those things --- because you realize it is vulgar and demeaning and it is something you would NEVER NEVER stoop so low to do.
So tell us WHY you think it is OK for a man to do this to a woman??
Thank you happiest girl, FINALLY someone fessed up and admitted the march was not about empowerment, education and women's rights, it's just what I said it was about -- women thinking all men are sexual predators.
Funny when I said that in my post above everyone freaked, and here you are admitting its about Trump and men touching women inappropriately.
And to answer your question about daughters...
If my daughters are stupid enough to let a man touch their boobs or pu$$y to get a promotion, I would be disgusted with them, not the man. My husband and I taught our daughters that they were worth more than their body or their looks and they didn't need to use their bodies to get where they want to go because they have a brain. We also taught our sons to respect women and to treat them with kindness and to choose girls with a head on their shoulders and a sense of self worth, not a girl who flaunts her boobs and ass.
My daughters don't have to put a pussy hat on and march down the street because they are too busy PROVING they are not the same as a man (nor do they want to be) but are equals in stature and have their own gifts and talents, equal to but different than a man. .
No, If a guy touched our daughters inappropriately or offered a pay raise for a blow job, they wouldn't cry to the media and put on a "pussy hat" and march - they would be too busy calling the ambulance to have the guy brought to the hospital to have his testicles removed from his upper intestines.
That's how you empower yourself - with a karate chop to the groin - not this whiny "pink pussy hat" bull about Trump and sexual predators and equality this and that.
Imagine for a minute all the men putting penises on their heads and marching all over the streets with people like Justin Bieber or Tom Brady screaming profanities from a podium ranting about how much women suck. Just imagine it --yeah, that's how dumb the women look too.
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Some people ignore the system and take care of themselves, some do the opposite, some do both, and some do neither.
There were all types of people at the March, believing many different thoughts on many different issues and whether you believe that or whether you continue to judge by your own paradigm-pointed imagined stereotypes, that’s up to you.
The hat is in response to a vile man you enable to symbolize a movement that you are not apart of. Perhaps you feel you have gender-based inequality and sexual abuse solved for you and yours. Perhaps you enjoy the administration’s giving business a free hand, raising deficits to feed the rich, and the unbridled attack on our environment. Perhaps you want to. enable this man to demean and defile minorities and individuals. You certainly have a lot of hatred for those not like you. Others, and the facts, disagree on that point and WE, as soon as I get mine, wear the hat to symbolize our thoughts; they marched to display their protest galvanizing people to take action at the polls.
See you in November.
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