Barone's/Lockwood Tavern to be demolished

Pretty sad. 200+ year old building. I would have to say the Lockwood Tavern has to be my favorite bar in northern nj.

http://www.njherald.com/story/19347531/byrams-lockwood-tavern-to-be-demolished-for-cvs

Bryan Bryan Message Bryan
Aug '12


Oh no! How terrible. My husband and I went to Lockwood Tavern for pizza and beer on our first date.

Calico696 Calico696 Message Calico696
Aug '12

I swear if i had the money i would buy places like this just to keep them standing. Screw the new CVS or bank or whatever the heck they want to put there.

Bryan Bryan Message Bryan
Aug '12

This makes me so sad. I lived in Stanhope for a while and loved the lockwood tavern.

LAS LAS Message LAS
Aug '12

Such a loss. Great times were had by all there and so cozy too.

observer2 observer2 Message observer2
Aug '12

If I had anything to do with it, I'd try to get it listed/zoned as a historical structure... because IT IS!!!

Damn shame. But yeah- we DON'T need another friggin' CVS!! It actually just makes me want to NOT patronize CVS. (unfortunately, that's where my health insurance makes me go for Rx's, but otherwise, CVS can kiss my ass.)

Before it's over, we're going to do all of our shopping at Wal-Mart (including food), buy all our pharmacy stuff at CVS, and eat out only at McDonald's... that'll be all that's left.

JeffersonRepub JeffersonRepub Message JeffersonRepub
Aug '12

My friend had his wedding rehearsal dinner at Barone's 10 years ago. Such a shame.

Metsman Metsman Message Metsman
Aug '12

Is Lockwood Tavern still open for business at this time? If so anyone have a time table as to when it will shut down operations, I love this place.

Jean09 Jean09 Message Jean09
Aug '12

So many wonderful memories of Lockwood Tavern pizza and Barone's seafood buffet! What a loss.

Lady Jayne Lady Jayne Message Lady Jayne
Aug '12

What??? This is news to me. We have been there one night for the past few weeks for their Lobster special and no one said a word. We love the Lockwood Tavern especially as it is so quaint and also have dined upstairs at Barones for a little more special occasion. I know someone said they were renovating but not anything like demolishing the place.

joyful joyful Message joyful
Aug '12

Sad for this buiness owner... But glad bc it's a better location then where the cvs is now. Plus this is my husbands store

S@hm
Aug '12

They are still selling gift certificates, as I just had one sent to a friend yesterday. Better make sure they use it soon!

Mom of 1&1 Mom of 1&1 Message Mom of 1&1
Aug '12

this property has been up for redevelopment for a few years...CVS pharmacy looked at it...Quik-Chek looked at it...the plans that are on display show a complete new building at the rear of the lot...one rumor going around has the Lockwood Tavern moving into the former Unkies...Harolds Tamaracks restaurant building

oldman oldman Message oldman
Aug '12

They will be reopening in the new shopping center...as per employees.

PREDATOR PREDATOR Message PREDATOR
Aug '12

If the people of the USA weren't so doped up on anxiety and antidepressant meds there wouldnt be a pharmacy on every major corner. Better to drink and keep the bars and liqour stores in business.

jerseycash5
Aug '12

Pat is a friend of mine. He has wanted this and has worked on it for several years now. There are some good plans in the works. Oldman, the Unkie thing died a while back but was a discussion for sure.

I have enjoyed more great times there than I could ever count. I sure will miss it.

Lockwood is open for business,Jean09.

Greg Greg Message Greg
Aug '12

"Before it's over, we're going to do all of our shopping at Wal-Mart (including food), buy all our pharmacy stuff at CVS, and eat out only at McDonald's... that'll be all that's left."

That's ridiculous...did you not see that Taco Bell won the fast food wars? Uh, hello? Demolition Man? Rent it. LOL!

emaxxman emaxxman Message emaxxman
Aug '12

That's good news that they will be able to move. You can't replace the ambiance of a place like that though. Especially the Tavern. Hope they realize that. I do understand with all the 206 construction, the road is getting a little too close for comfort i guess.

Bryan Bryan Message Bryan
Aug '12

The Mayor is very sad to see it go, but the town has no problem with seven variances and five waivers??? Give me a break! How about zoning it as a town landmark? Nope we need every town to have the same chain pharmacy's, and restaurants until we won't be able to tell one town from another. That's Progress!

Denis Denis Message Denis
Aug '12

Yup. go ahead and tear down some more history. Replace it with a CVS just like they have planned for Bergen Tool. How many friggin' drugstores and quik-checks do we need? Seriously? There's one every quarter mile or so.

I always find it amusing that drugstores (which, theoretically are supposed to provide health aides to make you well) are chock full of tobacco products, junk food, soda, candy, and other stuff that makes us ill. Cancer for the cure....

eperot eperot Message eperot
Aug '12

eperot, you are right about what drug stores sell. So often, people pick up thier cigarettes and then go and get their prescriptions. If you remember the drug store that used to be in Hastings Square, it was owned by a great guy whose name is Bob Gallegher. He did not sell any tobacco products because he believed so strongly against using them. He said he gave up a great deal of money by doing that. Sadly he was not able to compete with the larger chain stores and he had to give up his business. But he had a lot of integrity.

Tanya Tanya Message Tanya
Aug '12

emaxxman, apparently you haven't seen "Idiocracy". Carl's Jr. is the fast food of the future.

"Welcome to Carl's Jr. Would you like to try our EXTRA BIG ASS TACO? Now with more MOLECULES!"

ianimal ianimal Message ianimal
Aug '12

Just depressing.. from New York City to the Burbs its an ocean of drug stores and banks.

BLocal BLocal Message BLocal
Aug '12

Sounds almost as stupid as a town allowing 2 chain drug stores to build right across the street from each other...owe that happened.

Never mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENGUYeiGtNk&feature=related

Me4 Me4 Message Me4
Aug '12

If anyone would like to get involved, there is a petition that was started by Patt Reid from Stanhope to try to save the Building and Busines'. One thing, this petition is part of MoveOn a group that will send you others to review and will ask for monitary donations.

www.signon.org/sign/save-historic-byram-building?source=s.fwd&r_by=4375075

4paws 4paws Message 4paws
Aug '12

The problem with the petition is it has no merit. The owner sold the property He did not want to save the building. It is his right to sell and the person who is buying it to develop it.

This happens all over. Poor planning on the town, but don't blame the seller or the buyer for trying to make a profit as everyone before them or after them will do.

nutty nutty Message nutty
Aug '12

I'm confused is everyone that signs the petition agreeing to pitch in and buy the building? If not then what are you trying to accomplish? Stop a business owner from making a profit off his investment?

The town should have labeled this building a historic landmark years ago and given the porperty owner a discount on his property tax. Offered to split the cost of any repairs/maintenance.

It's too late now.

darwin darwin Message darwin
Aug '12

Cvs payed a pretty penny for the property. The owner accepted... Nothing you do or say will change that.

S@hm
Aug '12

The petition is also providing false information (based on the info in this thread.) The tavern is opening up in a new location so there should be no loss of jobs. Additionally, the construction will provide for more jobs.

Why don't the folks who want the building to stay all band together and buy the property?

If find it reprehensible, in a reputedly free society, for a group of people to force restrictions on a privately owned piece of property simply because they hold some sentimental value. The Skylands Act, eminent domain, historic building declarations on private buildings - all just examples of the government infringing on individual rights.

To be clear, as an avid photographer, I love old architecture. I would prefer that the old building stayed and CVS made use of it. I also enjoy being able to do as I please with my own home and could never impose my beliefs on another's property.

emaxxman emaxxman Message emaxxman
Aug '12

I was just in North Carolina for a couple days and we were at an intersection where there was a Rite Aid, CVS and Walgreens on three of the four corners. I've seen similar intersections in Florida. I just don't get it.

Tracy Tracy Message Tracy
Aug '12

lol the petition says it's new goal it to get to 750 signatures... ok and what gets accomplished when you reach that goal???? Nothing except 750 people now get new spam mail.

darwin darwin Message darwin
Aug '12

NOoooooo say it isn't so!!!!


The town has an obligation to whats best for everyone in town, not just 1 business owner, and 1 mega corporation trying to make a profit. The town didn't have to declare it a historic landmark to stop this. All the had to do keep the current zoning in place. The point is they actually rewrote the existing town zoning ordinances to accommodate CVS, and make this happen.

Denis Denis Message Denis
Aug '12

And they still can't do anything about that abandoned gas station just up the road from Lockwood Tavern. Must be a spotted owl nesting in it...or some tree frog! If there ain't nothing in it for the town (or its leaders) they ignore it.

itdontmatter
Aug '12

BTW, Skylands Community Pharmacy does NOT sell tobacco products.

futuremaybe futuremaybe Message futuremaybe
Aug '12

Haven't been around there in a while.. is it still in business? Or long gone?

pvcat pvcat Message pvcat
Oct '12

Barone's/Lockwood Tavern has been closed for about 3 weeks now.

nutty nutty Message nutty
Oct '12

Thanks, nutty!

pvcat pvcat Message pvcat
Oct '12

We noticed it was closed when we went by a few weeks ago....Really will miss that place!

joyful joyful Message joyful
Oct '12

We can't let this happen. Come on people, let's stand up for ourselves and the history of the people that came before us. This new CVS will be gone in 50 years. Hold on to History, once it's gone, you can never bring it back.

Todd Cieri Todd Cieri Message Todd Cieri
Oct '12

Unfortunately a guy in my fantasy baseball league is either on the town council or planning board over there & he said it's a done deal.

Think CVS paid the current owner 2 or 3 million dollars for the property so i guess that's progress unless you can come up with that cash.

Everyone can go eat at McDonalds & than go across the street to CVS & get blood pressure medication to combat the meal. Pretty sad if you think about it to let a 200 year old building like that go away for aisles of greeting cards & cosmetics.

Me4 Me4 Message Me4
Oct '12

What a rotten shame, in fact what the gov is doing to 206 over there stinks too. Rip out a nice patch of woods and divert streams to widen the road and cause a speedway on neighboring Lakawanna Drive. Millions more going down the rat hole. Everyplace in the USA is looking the same. One big ugly mall. No more little family stores. Remember family owned pharmacies? Little hardware stores where the owners knew about everything? No we need a new crappy CVS and an abandoned store left down the street. And jobs? What kind of jobs? The lowest scale you can get or temp ones that are gone as soon as the building is over. Wise up people! At this rate Sussex Cty is going to look like every other crappy cty in Jersey in short order.

Terry Clarke Terry Clarke Message Terry Clarke
Oct '12

Anyone know if Barones is opening a new location? And where?

hector
Dec '12

At this point, there are not.

Greg Greg Message Greg
Dec '12

I heard a CVS and a Hooters..? What? How can that be??

embryodad embryodad Message embryodad
Dec '12

it has been close for a while

Thomas Thomas Message Thomas
Jan '13

Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that they were opening a new spot in a strip mall i believe. Don't know if it's true.

Bryan Bryan Message Bryan
Jan '13

No Bryan that is no longer on the table. Too bad I enjoyed the Lockwood....

Grer Grer Message Grer
Jan '13

In normal NJ fashion, there will be a Burger King, Rite-Aid, Stop and Shop, Walmart, and a movie theater. Maybe a chinese restaurant....it will almost mimic the one across the street.

acl76 acl76 Message acl76
Jan '13

acl - Don't forget the Dunkin' Donuts and nail salon.

Calico696 Calico696 Message Calico696
Jan '13

Lockwood Tavern is open again...for now!

Greg Greg Message Greg
Jan '13

The tavern re-opened last week.Why have they opened the tavern back up?

oldman oldman Message oldman
Jan '13

Calico, definitely a DD. The one across the street in ShopRite, and the other a 1/2 mile down the road cannot possibly be enough ;)

Lori...since '73 Lori...since '73 Message Lori...since '73
Jan '13

Wow, really? Is Barone's open too? Anyone know how long it will be open for?

somechick somechick Message somechick
Jan '13

WHHHAAT???
Did you go in? Because Sunday , I saw like 4 cars in the parking lot below, and 1 van up by Barones!!!

mesh mesh Message mesh
Jan '13

There is a sign on the front of the tavern that says OPEN in large letters.

oldman oldman Message oldman
Jan '13

No the upper dinning room will not be open. Pat just reopened the Lockwood Tavern in the lower level. The building demo is still coming but in the meantime....Cheers!

Greg Greg Message Greg
Jan '13

Went on 2/2, as I wanted the pizza and a dozen steamers....No steamers on the menu and the personal pizza was okay.
The service as always was great...however they have a limited menu (still offer specials), but not the menu from the past , suppose this is because Barone's is no longer operating.
I will be back hopefully a few more times and report back!!!

mesh mesh Message mesh
Feb '13

Any new news on the demolition of Lockwood Tavern?

Barberbarkeep Barberbarkeep Message Barberbarkeep
Sep '13

So sad. Last night was the last night. I was there on Sat. for dinner and there was no mention of closing. Just happened to be there yesterday and heard the sad news. I ordered my last pizza. They were the best. Who needs another CVS? Certainly not me.

Observer3 Observer3 Message Observer3
Jul '14

I had thought when they spruced up the front that it meant they were somehow saved from being demolished.

D-ManPV D-ManPV Message D-ManPV
Jul '14

their last day is August 3, 2014

maria maria Message maria
Jul '14

Annother CVS.....who cares about historical preservation!!!! (quotes from CVS)

Darrin Darrin Message Darrin
Jul '14

They demolished Pal's Cabin in West Orange which was around for 80+ years to make way for a new CVS. They could care less about any town they move into. I'll never spend a dime in the Hackettstown one, if it's ever built. Plenty of other options.

Denis Denis Message Denis
Jul '14

CVS is now interested in the old Larison's turkey farm property. I hope Chester fights like crazy. We don't need any more banks or pharmacies!!!

Tracy (mobile) Tracy (mobile) Message Tracy (mobile)
Jul '14

I had no idea about Pal's! Haven't been in YEARS, but it's an old family favorite.

somechik somechik Message somechik
Jul '14

Interesting, Tracy. Years ago Commerce Bank was going to build there and that fell through (don't know if I ever knew why). Now it's a pharmacy trying to get in there! I agree, we don't need more of either!!

Aquarius Aquarius Message Aquarius
Jul '14

No tears here. Gave that place too many second chances...our table (usually 4+ people) always had an issue with someones order. Next!

MickyD
Jul '14

So, is it open this weekend? Would like to go one final time. My husband and I's first date was there.

Calico696 Calico696 Message Calico696
Jul '14

Calico696 - My husband & I had our first date there too!!

somechik somechik Message somechik
Aug '14

I worked for Pat for a time upstairs and always liked him. Lockwood has always been one of my favorites and I will miss it. Obviously if this is what Pat wanted then good for him, and I wish him well. Like most others I'm amazed (and tired of) all the pharmacies popping up. It is crazy. But I'll focus on some really nice memories (and a few nights I don't remember... :) ).

fins2dleft
Aug '14

with cvs around, soon there will be no more places to have memories, except at cvs of course

Darrin Darrin Message Darrin
Aug '14

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered....why didn't CVS buy the big empty lot next to Lockwood, instead of where an established business already existed?

Tracy (mobile) Tracy (mobile) Message Tracy (mobile)
Aug '14

I believe they want the lot and the spot where lockwood is, they have been trying to get it for years

Darrin Darrin Message Darrin
Aug '14

What's going to happen to the CVS that is about a mile away in the small shopping center (on the right just past the Black Forest Inn if you are coming from 80)?

I still don't understand why after the initial rumors of closing it appears that they cleaned up the front of the restaurant to make it look nice, if only a few months later it was going to close for good.

D-ManPV D-ManPV Message D-ManPV
Aug '14

I am heartbroken. I love the Lockwood and have had many wonderful memories here. I sure wish I knew about the petition. I would have helped fight for this place had I known. I was so hoping they were beyond this and were going to be saved when I saw it reopen and the front all fixed up. To tear down a beautiful historic building for a store that has a perfect location just down the street is criminal, especially when there is plenty of land around it to build. Once the building is gone, you cannot get it back. if this happens, I am boycotting CVS.

I see the building is up for auction but until it is demolished, is there still hope? Anyone know who purchased it

Paula C.
Aug '14

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