hackettstown Highschool class rankings??
was told that the High school doesn't tell parents where the kids rank in their class???
does anyone know why?? is this true??
I think it is because colleges look at the rank and we score harder than a lot of other schools so our ranking does not look as high as some other school when in fact a student from hhs could be ranked 85th but if they went elsewhere, they would rank higher!
That explanation might make more sense if you were talking about Princeton HS, where #20 could have possibly been #1 at Warrren Hills. I don't think someone ranked 85th in their class at Hackettstown is extremely brilliant, but there just happens to be 84 more brilliant rocket scientists ahead of him/her. The rank is not to compare you to a kid in another HS, just how well you did in relation to your own classmates.
Maybe Mrs. Grey meant that they tell the student, but not the parent?
Have you tried calling the school and asking someone in the Guidance Department? Seems like good question if it's something you need to know.
Why would it matter where they Rank in there class? people are to consumed with numbers
Its on the high school transcript after they graduate they prob dont release it to parents throughout the year because they dont want parents to push there kids to hard to compete for a number
We are in the middle of the college search process and we have learned that many high schools no longer rank their students. My guess would be that people get so consumed with their rank, that it is no longer a healthy learning environment. Most colleges can accomodate this. The guidance department has stated that they will provide a percentage rank upon request by a college. My daughter said that last year when seniors were applying to highly competitive schools and needed a rank, it was provided to them.
So you have a class of 100 students 50 percent all get top grades A+ how do you rank them ,what are the guide lines for ranking
I was told that the rank is not publisized.... but kids have a way of finding out?? I'm just planning ahead ....looking for requirements for NJ stars etc .... which requires a kid to be in the top 15% of his class...
so if there are for example 300 kids in class they need to be in the top 45 out of the class.... I'll just call back and talk directly to my kids guidance counselor and see what the deal it.......
JSB - I disagree with the policy of not making the ranking known, (and in our district both the kids and their parents can contact the guidance conselor and get the information). It's basically a knee jerk reaction to the PC police. It's clearly known who are the "first string" and starter athletes and they are acknowledged for their skills. Why shouldn't the kid who has academic abilites not be celebrated for their achievements? Mrs. Grey - If your child is eligible for NJ Stars they will receive an application from the State, (the school is suppose to supply the State with the list of kids who are eligible). One of the questions on the application is class rank so the school will have to give you the rank).
Announced class rank was dropped, I think, about 7-8 years ago. It's my understanding that most colleges "re-rank" the applications according to their own standards and norms when they come in, and don't use a HS's ranking of their students.
Class rank is reported out in deciles (a kid is in the top 15% of their class) and if specifics are needed for scholarships, etc. I'm told that a call to the guidance dept. can have that info forwarded on to the scholarship committee or college.
At the end of the year, the top ten students in the graduating class are announced (in alphabetical order), and at the graduation ceremony, the salutatorian and valedictorian are announced and honored.
Mrs Grey if your child is eligible for NJ stars you will also get a letter in the mail upon graduation.
Mrs Grey- In my experience with college requirements I have found that most schools ask for a class rank "if available". Many merit scholarship requirements do not ask for class rank but whether the student is in the top 10%, 20% etc. The percentage info the school does provide and the class rank only if needed by the college the student is appying to. With respect to the NJ STARS program it is also a requirement now for the student to take college prep level courses to qualify. That is a good thing as some students were qualifying based on GPA etc, but their course levels were sub standard.
ACL76 you are completely wrong ! NJ STARS is still active a friend of mine is going to school on it now
http://njstars.net/
Shoebie...kids who graduated before last year are still eligible...the program was trimmed Corzine's last year in office. Kids that graduated in 2009 were still able to take advantage of the program if they spend two years at their county college then transfer to a state college. The amount depends on their grades. The program was NOT offered to last year's graduates - my daughter was one of them, graduated in the top 15 percent of her class and is attending WCCC this year. My son, however, is still receiving money as he went to WCCC then Montclair. He graduated in 2007.
acl76 - Read the link that shoebie provided in her post above. Christie restored the funds for the NJ Stars program for 2010 high school graduates. As Amy mentioned above your daughter may not be eligible despite her GPA because of the type of classes she took in high school.
Shoebie - Eligible students are notified in the fall of their senior year. How would you be able to make a decision about whether you should participate in the program or go elsewhere if you didn't know your status until after graduation?
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the "Stars Program" may be partially based on financial need whereas it used to be based solely on academics. That would make it difficult to determine the true top 10 percent of the class.
I apologize, students beginning school now are getting STARS dollars. I am not sure about next year...but they did cut the second two years from full tuition to I believe a max of 7 or 8 K a year. It was not need based in 2007, however, maybe that has changed.
Tweety - To date the NJ Stars program is not based on a family's income except for the NJ Stars II portion of the program. If a family has an income of $250K or more their student is not eligible for the NJ Star II program, (this is the program that will pay either $6K or $7K towards a four year in state institution after the student receives their associate degree from a NJ community college). Therefore there is no difficulty in determining the top 15% of the high school class - it's based soley on their grades and the classes they took
CA - What type of trade are you asking about? NJ Stars allows a student in the top 15% of their graduating high school class to go to a NJ county community college for free. Each of those schools have different programs including ones that are designed to prepare you for a job. Click on the link Shoebie provided in her post above and you can find the 19 schools that are covered in the program. If you click on a school you can see what programs that particular school offers.
Well, you do have it partially right. I believe it is on class rank, but some students choose to take their core classes at county, especially STARS students, it is free, then xfer on to 4 year colleges. Some families don't have the $20k - 30K per year and students are a little more fiscally orientated. Better watch out CA, the respiratory therapists at many hospitals are graduates of Bergen County College...your EKGs may be performed by a person who has a two year degree from Morris County College. :)
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